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The doctor who stops women ageing - menopause/fertility

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OhHolyJesus · 24/08/2019 11:07

I can see the benefits but I do think there is a god complex with these doctors at ProFAM.

The doctor who stops women ageing

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/58515a70-c35f-11e9-b964-2cc1b53edc70

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Justhadathought · 24/08/2019 21:52

Once a woman stops her periods she is considered old and non fuckable

Thank goodness! Leaves you free just to be yourself. There's nothing more attractive than a self realised person.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 24/08/2019 23:12

My menopause was relatively easy; half a dozen mild hot flushes and my periods stopped. And yes, this hormonal rage that had regularly consumed me every month seemed to disappear. That was pretty nice.

Vaginal dryness is a step too far though. It may be natural but it ain’t pleasant.

Doobigetta · 25/08/2019 11:14

HRT is about medicating perfectly healthy women.

I’m a perfectly healthy woman who has been happily “medicated” for 25 years with the contraceptive pill. If I can continue that indefinitely until I switch to taking HRT I will do, and I’ll continue being happy. Hormones and periods and menopause symptoms may be natural, but they’re also painful and inconvenient, and I think the “suck it up, it’s part of being a woman” brigade are fundamentally pretty misogynistic. It’s just a thinly disguised extension of the belief that we should all be barefoot and pregnant all the time. That’s up to you if that’s what works for you, but keep your nose out of everyone else’s choices.

Whosorrynow · 25/08/2019 13:06

I don't like the assumption that the postmenopausal state is inherently unhealthy, extending a woman's exposure to higher levels of oestrogen can have negative as well as positive consequences.
Men's hormone levels also decline as they get older, testosterone replacement therapy may be helpful for some things but it can also increase the risks of other problems

Fraggling · 25/08/2019 14:20

it's all about balance, and what is going to work for the individual, same as every other individual.

Reading this thread you'd assume that women are being forced to have hrt. They aren't, it's one option amongst a few that women who have menopause symptoms that reduce their quality of life can consider.

The juxtaposition with this and the general view of Hormonal contraception, which could well have been contributing to reduced Mental health in girls and women for decades, is really interesting.

Fraggling · 25/08/2019 14:23

I dislike this recent attempt to draw equivalence between male 'menopause' and women's.

Same is happening with men getting 'post natal deoression'.

Talk about these things and try to help by all means, but don't leverage uniquely female biological events in order to do so, get your own words.

Mamello · 25/08/2019 15:25

It is not misogynistic to query the use of HRT. All medication has side effects (including the increasing amount of oestrogen in the water supply due to it being peed out at increasing rates). If women need HRT then fine, have it, but at least find out if you do need it first. The menopause, like women's experience of periods, varies from woman to woman and there shouldn't be an assumption that HRT will be useful or suit everyone.

Fraggling · 25/08/2019 16:02

Bloody women and girls pissing out hormones and destroying the ecosystem Angry

Is there anything they do right?

(answer. No)

woman19 · 26/08/2019 00:51

Bloody women and girls pissing out hormones and destroying the ecosystem angry

With compassion, fraggling you are not hearing women.

Goosefoot · 26/08/2019 01:03

Oestrogen in the water is kind of a serious thing.

There has been a somewhat recent trend, not a huge one, of younger women away from hormonal birth control, with the availability of tracking aps. I don't know if it will stick, as it isn't always as easy as they think to make it work. But the fact that so many have been interested suggests to me that many aren't totally thrilled with hormonal birth control.

woman19 · 26/08/2019 01:16

the fact that so many have been interested suggests to me that many aren't totally thrilled with hormonal birth control

I learnt about the 'pill's 'health drawbacks, way back in the 1980s when an American girlfriend warned me.

Health dangers of the 'pill' was then a feminist issue, along with abortion rights, in America.

I came off it there and then.

If it is so wonderful, why are men not on a contraceptive pill?

And the hrt?

Diaphragms, as a non chemical barrier contraception, seem almost unavailable now. Or at least they were when I was fertile.

They don't make as much money for the pharma companies, I presume.

I am now blissfully, post menopausally barren.

It is absolutely brilliant. Smile As is the whole post menopause thing.
Saves me £s in tax for tampons and days in pain free ness.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 26/08/2019 11:08

With compassion, fraggling you are not hearing women.

Pretty sure Frag is being facetious.

SirVixofVixHall · 26/08/2019 22:08

Like Fermats, my mother had severe osteoporosis . I have chosen to go on HRT as I was told I might also be at risk . I started HRT when I was at the tail end of peri meno, but I was already having symptoms that were making life harder. I actually wish I was young enough to have this treatment. Not to get pregnant, I had babies naturally in my forties and that was exhausting, but to protect my bones etc without relying on medication.

Justhadathought · 26/08/2019 22:35

I had a very early menopause at age 36...at a particularly stressful period in my life. i actually believe that i 'shut down' in order to protect myself - and this is what caused the sudden cessation of periods.
Apparently i still had eggs - I just wasn't releasing them......

Being so young neither I nor anyone else would have supposed menopause......and that tie in my life is a bit of a blur: intensehot flushes ( which i didn't know were hot flushes); what I thought were panic attacks ( but turned out to be temporal lobe seizures - which then led, just the once, into a full blown seizure. Thank goodness it wasn't me that was driving).

In retrospect - I put weight in around my middle/stomach ( Had never carried weight in the way before); after walking my ankles and knees would ache; my skin changed; and i could no longer regulate changes in temperature as well.....none of this I realised was down to menopausal symptoms.

When my GP tested me and found out I was peri-menopausal she suggested HRT - but I firmly rejected. I've never been one for medications. I'm now 54 and glad to be well & truly on the other side. I eat well & walk a lot, and am far more emotionally stable than ever I was 'before'.

ItsOnAmericasTorturedBrow · 26/08/2019 23:08

I'm on body identical HRT, (oestrogen patches, progesterone capsules, testosterone gel) not to "defy ageing" but because I was depressed, had aching joints, absolutely no ability to concentrate, sleeplessness and exhaustion. I still had periods, never had a "hot flush" but after 3 months on it I felt like me again. Not a really young me, just a me who can function. I don't think trying to maintain fertility into your 50s and 60s is a great idea though - I had my last baby at 41 and the pregnancy was horrific compared with my other children who I had in my 20s & 30s.

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