Interesting Twitter poll/thread asking straight men if they would date a TW

[AngeloMysterioso]

twitter.com/amazonfbaguy/status/1161715586172194816?s=21

Over 26k votes since Wednesday, 85% say no they would not date a TW. Seems to be mostly fairly balanced replies as well!

Most comments are that TW are not W but often put in terms not allowed by MN.

I think the 15% will include some curious TW and their allies wanting to know the results before the poll finished.

I was messaged to say it was 95% no for a long time then hijacked by trans

And this thread too. LOL.

twitter.com/aniobrien/status/1161709182761832453?s=21

As ever the most 'interesting' thing about this poll is the complete lack of men being banned from Twitter for pointing out XY individuals are men regardless of their belief in gender identities.

The double standard could not be more glaring.

Yes excatly

I saw many replies from men saying they were straight

And various other replies which we can’t say but weren’t abusive just stating the obvious

I like the comment "Would you ride a turtle if it told you it was a horse?".

I think there are men who identify as heterosexual but are attracted to transwomen. It takes all sorts to make a world. It’s not my business

BUT as others have said, at present there is a different response to straight men saying no than to lesbians saying no.

When this was posted in the other thread there were some comments from (I guess) a TRA who said twice that some Transwomen were the most beautiful, sexy women alive which riles me a bit because it suggests that good looks and sexiness are the way to be dateable. Again it’s a stereotype that women need to be sexy and desirable and nothing else is important.

Anyway, I won’t hold my breath for anyone to threaten to take a pretty baseball bat to these guys for saying no.

Here’s one of the quotes, I can’t find the other.

You can't always tell who is and who isn't a trans woman, some of the hottest women alive are trans, only a gay man would be not attracted to any of them, that's just a fact

(Not a fact)

I know it's an old comedic trope that men can't tell the difference between women and transwomen but none of the heterosexual men I know in real life seem to have any problem doing so.

Even the most expensive surgically created facsimiies don't seem to fool them. They are aware that photo-shopped and carefully posed images online may be almost passable, but in the real world the movement, the proportions, the smell give it away.

I noticed at least one poster on that thread talking about pheromones, those sexual signals that we aren't even conscious of just cannot be manufactured.

Great to see the double standards of Twitter policing being called out.

Unfortunately, there are bits of homophobia on there though. A few comments about being attracted to women because they're 'correctly programmed by nature'

I see a lot of stuff about lesbians accepting trans women and the cotton ceiling etc, has there been any discussion about gay men and dating trans men?

As I recall the men of Vintage Gay Toronto when the matter came up said something along the lines of 'our space is for gay men, not dysphoric women' and their spokesman added 'I have little care or concern for the opinions of trans activists, you can quote me'.

In short, like heterosexual men they just say 'no' and don't give a damn about the whining.

I saw a reply from Fionne Orlander which to me suggests that Fionne (who knows he is male) dates men.
I guess I'm curious as to whether a man who dates a feminine appearing transsexual would also date a) a less feminine gay man or b) a transwoman who says they are a woman or c) a woman whether she's "feminine" or not.

Pure nosyness I'm afraid!

I wonder how many of those men will be arrested 🤔

It may also be that some woke straight men would claim in a survey that they would of course date a TW because they feel that's what they should say, but be reluctant to in RL.

Also, finding a TW attractive on the surface is not the same as dating with the potential for sex.

All of them. Every single one
And every single one will get banned from twitter

That’s how it works isn’t it ?

I was messaged to say it was 95% no for a long time then hijacked by trans

That seems far more realistic. If 15% of straight men would date male transpeople they'd have a huge dating pool and not be complaining about not getting dates.

As I recall the men of Vintage Gay Toronto when the matter came up said something along the lines of 'our space is for gay men, not dysphoric women' and their spokesman added 'I have little care or concern for the opinions of trans activists, you can quote me'

If I remember right he popped up on the Mumsnet thread about it to say hello!

I spent a while on Twitter last night reading the responses. It was both boring and frustrating.

It was obvious that a huge percentage of the straight men responding had no qualms or confusion. They stated the sex of transwomen openly as the fact it is. Fact, not hate.

But then of course, there were all the testerical posters shrieking about how it WAS hate and that every single man who’d answered that they wouldn’t because TW were men, or that they were straight were transphobic.

It was fucking irritating to see it repeated over and over in the face of the overwhelmingly factual response from the straight men.

That the testeria is coming from a tiny, footstamping minority with an overpowering sense of their own self-importance has never been cleare, but the sheer, brazen insistence was wearisome.

If I was a gay bloke who liked feminine men I can imagine being attracted to Fionne who is very pretty but not a similar looking transwoman. With Fionne you wouldn't have to pretend he's something he's not and pretend to be in a heterosexual relationship.
As a mainly heterowoman I wouldn't date a transman, again it's the pretending to be something you're not. I'd rather date a male man or a butch lesbian if I wanted to date a female.

I hope that thread has been spotted by Harrytheowl.