Carceral Feminism - is this a thing now?

[AgileLass]

I keep seeing this phrase in some feminist Facebook groups, always in a tone of the deepest disapproval.

I just don’t get it... how can wanting men to be punished for violence against women and girls be unfeminist? Is it more feminist nowadays to be in favour of prison abolitionism? I can see how women suffer disproportionately from punitive sentencing for non-violent crimes, but surely violent criminals (overwhelmingly male) need to be punished and removed from society, perhaps forever.

Can anyone explain the logic? Am I missing something?

So you haven't answered the question at all, still.

Fair enough.

I think sex offenders, in the vast vast vast majority of cases, need locking up.

I am aok with my black and white thinking on this.

Reading the news, there's still frequent outrage at the punishments mandated by the courts in loads of sexual violence/ murder cases whereas victims are women girls. So certainly women don't feel that the crimes against us address taken seriously, a lot of the time.

What she found was that wasn't the case at all, that the rules were not only not appreciated by the women making the complaints, but they often made the situations worse. Which is to say, I think there are enough complications even in cases of domestic violence that I would not want to see only one pathway for dealing with those cases.

I think that this is the sort of area where what a victim wants isn’t actually the only consideration (and this is setting aside the fact that victims of domestic abuse are frequently so enmeshed in their toxic situations that they are ill-placed to give a balanced view of what justice might look like). The offenders have broken the social contract in a serious way by committing acts of violence against another member of society, and for that they deserve to be punished, by the law, for all in society to see.

I also think there still is some discretion available for sentencing in the U.K., even with minimum sentences.