Horrifying TED talk on trans children by paediatric endocrinologist.

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This was posted on Lily Maynard's twitter.

The callous way in which the doctor discusses the "elimination" of reproductive capability and uses that as an excuse to perform surgery at an early age is horrifying. She makes no mention of loss of sexual function or rather failure to develop sexual function.

Surgery on adolescents is discussed as a challenge to be met by pioneering surgeons. She almost seemed proud that she was great at her job neutering children she and was inviting the surgeons to step up and prove they were equal to her.

It's difficult to even find words to describe how wrong this is and so blatant, it almost feels boastful. I've worked with many Drs who would say that just because you can it doesn't mean you should. Is medical ethics out of fashion?

twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1159619154984484864?s=20

First, do no harm.

I agree it’s absolutely horrifying.

TED has really lost the plot with several weird nonsensical transgender ideology talks. Thankfully they almost always have a mass majority down voting them and tonnes of comments pointing out the insanity. It gives me hope in humanity.

What????

Surely (please let it be) this is satire? A Modest Proposal?

Her point that many states refuse to make children infertile before 18....she immediately points out that they are already infertile and probably permanently so through the blockers. Awful.

It really is chilling, these “reversible” puberty blockers will apparently already have sterilised a child, such that removing their now “redundant” penis and testes before they are even 18 apparently makes perfect sense!

These are children, they cannot (in my view) ever be Gillick competent to make this decision.

Not to mention the mother/parents, who knew Avery was special right from the moment she was born...a daughter with a penis.

It's twenty years since I was a midwife but I would have reported parents like that to social services or for a psychiatric assessment and got that child on the at risk register. I just don't know how the hell this madness has taken over the world, actually talking about a daughter with a penis.

Bloody hell - Avery is a girl because Avery likes unicorn back packs. Avery's mother realised as soon as her "little girl with a penis" was handed to her that there was something special and different about her child. Munchausen's by proxy, aided and abetted by a doctor with a god complex.

One of the comments says "MD must stand for Mengele Disciple." As far as I can see, there are no positive comments on this talk.

Cross post with Fanny - you obviously saw this exactly the same way I did.

Fermats yes, it's the new Munchausen's. In fact it's a long time since I've seen or heard of any cases of Munchausen's -they're all being validated as great parents of trans children now.

How different life would have been for Anne Boleyn if only she could have convinced Henry that a boy without a winkie was a perfectly good sort of boy. 🤗😉

This was linked to previously and I remembering commenting then on how weird and robotic the Endocrinologist was.

I'm now wondering if this is because Dr Tandy Aye is herself transgender?

These children have no fertility to preserve which highlights how young they are when these decisions are taken. To compare sex organs to an appendix is a desperate stretch to make your actions seem reasonable. An appendix has no known use as far as I'm aware and is not removed unless it causes problems. Removing reproductive organs because you've chemically destroyed their function for no medical reason is indefensible.

Not a single comment under the video supported her point of view, one referenced Dr Frankenstein which occured to me as I was watching.

Thingybob
Thanks I hadn't seen it previously but yes her delivery was rather stilted. I thought it was maybe rehearsed beyond her ability to come across naturally. I also wonder if she was nervous because of the controversial nature of the subject. There was polite applause at the end but it was hardly thunderous.

That is really chilling. The comments are suitably horrified - yet she no doubt carries on getting funding and mutilating children. Unbelievable.

Well that's a fancy and sugar coated way of telling people that basically they have no idea how to make a fully functioning "vagina" out of nothing.

How the hell can she talk so cheerfully and hopefully about butchering children.

That dr needs to have her license revoked.

Having read a summary of the available research into outcomes of genital surgery in these males, what she is proposing is even worse than it appears.

The average complication rate in adults is one in three, ranging from light infections, urinary issues, bowel perforations to death. 30% are not able to reach orgasm post-surgery.

But that is only in penile inversion surgeries. All other methods have a higher risk of complications and worse outcomes in terms of function and satisfaction.

It's important to note that she is not advocating for performing the best surgery available right now, the one that has the best outcomes in terms of risk and function, but for deliberately choosing a path for these boys that leaves them only the lesser surgery with higher risk and worse outcomes.

What she is proposing is already unethical, irresponsible, cruel and inhumane, but she does so knowing she is closing off the path to the least risky medical treatment as well. For children.

Addendum: please note that the quality of evidence as to outcomes of genital surgery in adult males is judged to be low. There is a lack of research in the first place and a lack of long-term follow-up. Where the latter does happen, patient surveys use inconsistent rating systems and don't measure the same data across studies.

In other words, they don't collect enough data and the data they do have cannot be compared. In adults. IIRC there is no data about outcomes in children.

I’m two minutes in and horrified already.

But that is only in penile inversion surgeries. All other methods have a higher risk of complications and worse outcomes in terms of function and satisfaction.

Penile inversion surgery is the least risky option? I'm quite surprised by that.
Dare I ask what the other surgical methods are?

That is bizarre. The way she makes it clear from the beginning that the parents considered the child a girl with a penis from birth, and put them on a path of 'gender affirmation' all through being a pre-schooler and through to puberty.

NonnyMouse1337

This article explains the complications experienced by Jazz Jennings and a brief description of the surgical technique used. It seems that some part of the intestine was used to form a neovagina. The longer term effects of puberty blockers,cross sex hormones and early surgery remain to be seen.

www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a23828566/jazz-jennings-gender-confirmation-surgery-complication/

I don’t think it’s bizarre that Avery’s parents had a “sense” the baby boy they birthed was actually a girl, I think it’s pathological and abusive. That’s projection beyond what is ever acceptable. Just how does it work? How the hell can you “sense” your newborn will have a gender identity that doesn’t match their sex? It’s mental. And this doctor, at a supposedly prestigious organisation like Stanford, affirms their subjective feeling, and as a result, mutilate a child. This is criminal behaviour. There should be prosecutions.

Dare I ask what the other surgical methods are?

Sewing part of your colon, intestine or stomach lining (?) onto the base of your penis and shoving that up inside a surgically made wound, instead of just "inverting" the whole penis with the tip cut off.
There may be other methods that I'm not aware of.

Interesting that this doctor is a diabetes specialist who has jumped on then trans gravy train more recently. I'd like to be less cynical but unfortunately I'm not given enough material to work with.