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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mass Reporting of GC Twitter Accounts

74 replies

JustfiedandAncient · 09/08/2019 09:26

Lots of people have been banned suspended in the last 12 ours.

I'd advise locking your account down to be safe.

OP posts:
Bespin · 09/08/2019 09:29

if you have nothing to get banned for then why would you lock down your account?

Juells · 09/08/2019 09:33

if you have nothing to get banned for then why would you lock down your account?

"If you're not doing anything illegal why should you worry if you're being watched all the time?"

Disingenuous. I'm very careful on twitter, make sure that I don't say anything to breach the rules, but (as I mentioned on another thread just now) I still got a notice that one of my posts was complained about.

Wizbetisanizbet · 09/08/2019 09:33

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Bespin · 09/08/2019 09:37

people like the harass and report trans people too. the Internet is full of people who do that and yes ya get notices that people complain becuse people complain all the time on here. I sure I get reported to mumsnet all the time, but I've not broken the rules so nothing happens. if you haven't broken there rules then why hide?

TurboTeddy · 09/08/2019 09:38

Joanna Cherry focuses on high profile females but it demonstrates the double standards very well.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 09/08/2019 09:39

Women are having accounts closed for stating women don't have penises.

I reported an account that sent me the shut up terf with the gun pointing meme and all they had to do was delete the tweet.

So death threats just get deleted but stating facts leads to loss of an account.

One day I hope the people who support this misogyny feel shame.

Socrates11 · 09/08/2019 09:39

I bloody hate this situation. Like being in the playground with a load of cowardly bullies. Twitter needs to have a word with itself. But it won't.

It's been useful for getting feminism revived but then so has Mumsnet. Sod the misogynistic bastards, not going to stop us speaking and organising, real life meetings are just the best Grin #solidarity with all the banned voices

littlbrowndog · 09/08/2019 09:42

Yeah and that guy wanking in the women’s toilets was up for ages. Ffs

Yet die in a grease fire tweet was given a short suspension then straight back

KatvonHostileExtremist · 09/08/2019 09:48

Those gun/te*f pictures are so frequently used.

It's a perfect example of the ideology in action. They think it's so edgy and cool, when in fact it's repetitive and 👀👀👀👀

Twitter needs to sort itself out

boatyardblues · 09/08/2019 09:48

In some respects it is an own goal, because driving GC women off Twitter is forcing them to arrange public meetings and into other media and on to alternative communication platforms. I doubt GC women would have made half as much headway with opening up this debate in the last 18-24 months if the fight had stayed on Twitter. They woefully underestimated the social capital, persistence and capabilities of women. So thanks TRAs! 🥂

DickKerrLadies · 09/08/2019 11:02

YY boatyard - you can't terfblock the real world.

NotMyFIrstTIme · 09/08/2019 11:32

I got a 12 hour ban from twitter for sarcasm. In response to someone being given a role for which they are manifestly unsuitable my crime was to tweet "Really good role model". I didn't even put the rolling eyes emoji in (admittedly, only because I hit 'tweet' too soon;))

Yet the "Shut the fuck up terf" meme, with gun, which was sent directly to me (quite separately) was not deemed a violation. Hmm

Twitter can't even police its own batshit rules properly.

I do recommend always blocking any account you come across that has you blocked.

MinnieTheSphinx · 09/08/2019 11:35

Most of the people who have been banned have been abusive and unpleasant. The idea that you can get banned for the mildest criticism of trans people is a nonsense but looks good as 'poor little us being silenced' propaganda. And when people generally do give an example of a tweet that only just stepped over the mark that they were banned for it's usually because that tweet was the straw that broke the camal's back. There's generally a long history of warnings and suspensions leading up to it.

littlbrowndog · 09/08/2019 11:38

Yeah and the mass blocking of accounts. With people that I have never even encountered.

Was it aimme Challenor who made terf blocker ?

MinnieTheSphinx · 09/08/2019 11:45

There are also plenty of block lists that trans activists are on. Terfblocker gets mentioned all the time but both sides are at it.

FermatsTheorem · 09/08/2019 11:46

Just remember everyone, not to commit the crime of "voicing opinions while female." Then you won't get into trouble.

TurboTeddy · 09/08/2019 11:49

For anyone who hasn't sent this....

terfisaslur.com/

Apparently women get banned for having a long history of unpleasant tweeting towards trans people and yet there doesn't appear to be a similar collection of receipts for this "literal violence".

ScrimshawTheSecond · 09/08/2019 11:53

You could swim around in Twitter for a long, long time without ever encountering the real world.

CharlieParley · 09/08/2019 11:56

Well, I've had my account for eight years. Not a single warning or violation.

Have been suspended since April for saying that the female sex class has been oppressed by the male sex class, long before we had words for sexism, oppression or inded sex classes.

I was saying this in a conversation with a male who identifies as trans, and who was incredibly proud of a long Twitter thread declaring that there is no such thing as biological sex or sex classes and therefore there could be no sex-based oppression of females or sex-based rights for them either.

My crime lay in highlighting the rather self-serving nature of a male espousing such a view.

I didn't call anyone a man who identified otherwise, I didn't use anyone's previous names, I didn't use offensive language, I didn't misgender.

Still suspended. Because I called a member of the male sex class a male.

As that does not actually break any rules, I appealed. In April. Haven't heard back. I could delete the tweet of course and be done with it, but as Bespin so helpfully reminds us, if you've got a strike on your record, you're one step closer to a permanent ban.

MinnieTheSphinx · 09/08/2019 12:03

Edited for you:

Just remember everyone, not to commit the crime of "voicing abusive opinions while male or female." Then you won't get into trouble.

FermatsTheorem · 09/08/2019 12:09

Except that your "abusive opinions" are everyone else's "blatantly obvious scientific facts."

Men can't magically become women. No matter what surgery they have. They can choose to "live as their idea of how women live" and more power to their elbow. 99% of the time that is fine and doesn't impinge on anyone else. I don't want to see trans-identifying people (of either sex) suffer discrimination in jobs (barring the tiny, tiny fraction where single sex exemptions are appropriate) or housing. I don't want to see them harrassed in everyday life.

That doesn't mean, however, that they should be able to participate in women's sports, get naked in front of non-consenting women, be sent to women's prisons if they commit crimes. It doesn't mean I should be forced to recite the credo of their belief system (TWAW, preferred pronouns for everyone who demands them, even if that person is a convicted rapist, etc.)

That's not abuse. That's my belief system being different from yours.

Which is fine in a free society.

howlsmovingcastle84 · 09/08/2019 12:17

Just remember everyone, not to commit the crime of "voicing abusive opinions while male or female." Then you won't get into trouble.

God does not exist. Is that abusive?
Human beings can not change sex? Is that abusive?

FermatsTheorem · 09/08/2019 12:22

Views I hold that many other people may find offensive (in fact, in the case of number one, that some people would even argue is advocating murder):

Abortion should be freely available to women, as early as possible, as late as necessary.

There is no god, and a lot of organised religions are institutionally misogynistic.

Tory introduction of/ changes to universal credit/ disability benefits are causing people to commit suicide/starve to death/turn to prostitution because they cannot afford to live on them, and this is not merely wrong, but evil.

Gay marriage is a great thing and I'm so glad to live in a society which now allows this.

Men can't become women, no matter how much they want to, and women should have the right to single sex spaces.

I wonder, is it all of these opinions I should be banned from voicing on twitter or only the last one?

barelove · 09/08/2019 13:05

The idea that you can get banned for the mildest criticism of trans people is a nonsense

CharlieParley's post proves this ^^ is incredibly naive and bullish*t.

barelove · 09/08/2019 13:10

Just remember everyone, not to commit the crime of "voicing abusive opinions while male or female." Then you won't get into trouble

FermatsTheorem's post proves this ^^ is also incredibly naive and total crap. We all know that from the list of potentially 'abusive opinions', it's only the last one (especially if posted by a female) is the one that will result in a ban.

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