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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Civil Service Toilet Conversion - Gender-neutral.

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HedgehogsRock · 01/08/2019 21:33

Posting for a friend (honestly!) who can't afford to be identified as she could lose her job. Apologies for the lack of details, but this is necessary unfortunately.

My friend is a Civil Servant and works in a very big office area. There has been a major works project carried out, spending an obscene sum on converting most of the toilet facilities to gender-neutral, a.k.a. mixed-sex, a.k.a. don't give a flying feck about women. There was no necessity to undertake any modernisation at all of the facilities as they are all relatively new and fairly pristine and no-one was consulted about whether or not they were happy to share facilities with the opposite sex.

The majority of women are not using these shared facilities and are walking to different areas of the buildings, to use the few toilets that are still 'women only', which of course wastes more time while clocked in at work. There are also longer queues at times, as there are so many women using fewer facilities.

None of the women feel able to complain about it as this is heresy and anyone who does, is very aware that they will be in deep doo-doo with the Woke management there. My friend's manager is very enthusiastic about the whole concept and how progressive it all is Hmm. The union have glugged much of the Kool-Aid too and will not help the women there either. To be fair though, nobody seems to have complained to the Union so far, but this is because they feel they would be viewed as the problem rather than having a legitimate concern.

There are only a few women who have been able to talk in whispers about this and are even afraid to ask others how they feel, in case Big Brother is watching and they will be reported to management. Resistance is futile and dangerous.

How did we get to this ridiculous position, where a few people could make a decision that would affect so many women, so negatively, without even giving women's requirements and opinions a second thought?

Are all of the Civil Service facilities being converted similarly and do management really have no concept that women require privacy and dignity, as well as safety?

What do we have to do before anyone listens to us and our very real concerns and how did women suddenly become so powerless?

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SingingLily · 03/08/2019 17:29

In these wonderfully progressive toilets, has any provision been made for sanipro dispensers and disposal units? Are these in the open "mixed sex" area? What provision has been made for women who, for the purpose of dignity, wish to use these in privacy?

HedgehogsRock · 04/08/2019 10:48

Not ignoring you all, just need to check the facts with my friend before replying.

Thanks all for your input!

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IwantToRetire · 03/04/2024 17:51

Just thought I would promote this thread from 5 years ago to show that it is absolutely obvious to anyone who bothered to search FWR that the issue of women not having access to women only (biological based) is not and never was accepted as being "normal". It was and is always enforced.

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