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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Welsh Assembly and the lost equality impact assessment

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thatdamnedwoman · 31/07/2019 09:23

The Welsh Assembly produced a 'Welsh Government Action Plan to advance equality for transgender people' in 2016

gov.wales/atisn13028

and said that an impact assessment had been carried out.

A Freedom of Information request was issued on March 2019 asking to see the impact assessment. The Impact assessment appears to have been lost. No trace of it anywhere — even though the Action Plan to Advance Equality for Transgender people mentions the importance of Impact Assessments. Here's the correspondence:

tinyurl.com/y6kxt29n

(I've had to do tinyurl as the original link was so long) It links to whatdotheyknow.com

If anyone here is sitting around at home today with nothing special to do you could check your local council (and possibly also town council and even parish council) on line and find out what resources/ action plans/ policies they have relating to transgender issues. If you find any, you could then use the letters in the whatdotheyknow link above as a template for making an FOI request asking about impact assessments.

My guess is the Welsh Assembly won't be the only body pushing change through without considering the impact on half the population. Let's help reveal this as the scandal we know it to be.

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Oldstyle · 04/08/2019 21:55

Was this you SisterResister? If so, can I borrow it to use for my own dear woke council?

Dear ---- City Council,
I am writing to you under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 to request the following information:
The Equality Impact Assessment regarding the guidelines about transgender children being allowed to use toilets, changing rooms and sleeping accommodation based on gender not sex with particular reference to the impact on women and girls who share the protected characteristic of sex.
If it is not possible to provide the information requested due to the information exceeding the cost of compliance limits identified in Section 12, please provide advice and assistance, under the Section 16 obligations of the Act, as to how I can refine my request.
If you can identify any ways that my request could be refined I would be grateful for any further advice and assistance.
If you have any queries please don’t hesitate to contact me via email and I will be very happy to clarify what I am asking for and discuss the request, my details are outlined below.
Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response.

Oldstyle · 04/08/2019 21:57

Well spotted Mole! This particular thread is turning up a coven of sleuths and revolutionary stalwarts. I feel quite over-excited to be rubbing shoulders with you all.

FOIrequester · 04/08/2019 23:19

If you have any queries please don’t hesitate to contact me via email and I will be very happy to clarify what I am asking for and discuss the request, my details are outlined below.

Please don't put your email on your request. Whatdotheyknow is a public site where anyone can view any information you put on there. They should remove any emails from requests as they have done with SisterResister's, but please be careful about your own privacy. If the organisation that you contact needs further information they can contact you on the site.

My reason for using whatdotheyknow.com for my FOI request was so that all my correspondence with Welsh Government would be visible to anyone who wanted to view it. In my case, it means that all their evasion and obfuscation is there for everyone to see. On the Welsh Gov. website, you can only see that they have been asked for some information which they say they don't have.

You should also think about what form of your name to use and whether you want some degree of anonymity. You can use a pseudonym, but if you think there is a possibility that you will want to contact the Information Commissioner you should use your real name.

"The guidance says that “Mr Arthur Thomas Roberts” can make a valid request as “Arthur Roberts”, “A. T. Roberts”, or “Mr Roberts”, but not as “Arthur” or “A.T.R.”."

"Women may use their maiden name."

More here: www.whatdotheyknow.com/help/privacy#real_name

I opted to use initial + surname, which makes me fairly anonymous, whilst still using my real name so that I can go to the Information Commissioner if necessary. Welsh Government themselves know my full name from the earlier email correspondence I referred to in the request.

OccasionalKite · 05/08/2019 00:13

FOIrequester:

Many thanks for your latest information. It really is very helpful.

Thank you.

TriptychDebbie · 05/08/2019 06:45

Really useful link @FOIrequester thank you for that.

I'm definitely going to keep a close eye on my local council. Many local policies come from Brighton including what happens in our schools.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 05/08/2019 07:10

You lot are amazing.

they LOST IT???! What utter fools, just fess up. You didn't do one did you! And that kind of sums up how you don't care about women and girls.

Oldstyle · 05/08/2019 13:43

Letter to EHRC re Welsh Government’s loss of Equality Impact Assessment (names redacted).

I am writing on behalf of Lleisiau Merched Cymru/Women’s Voices Wales (LMC/WVW). We are a feminist group (unfunded and voluntary) working to uphold and extend where necessary women’s sex based rights. We are concerned that a serious lapse in responsibility for equality has taken place within Welsh Government. We are drawing it the attention of the EHRC in Wales in the hope and expectation that you will take action.

In 2016, Welsh Government carried out an Equality Impact Assessment for their ‘Action Plan to advance equality for transgender people.’ This was a crucial document in terms of Equalities work by a public body. The EHRC in Wales has offered clear and firm guidance to Welsh Government and other public authorities on assessing impact and the Equality Duty (link below).

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/equality-impact-assessments

The EHRC stresses the need for public bodies to “...eliminate unlawful discrimination, advance equal opportunities and promote good relations between people.” It also reminds public bodies that “Decisions must not discriminate between people based on any protected characteristic.” The section on EIA ‘Myth Busters’ also states: “EIAs are a tool to be used in evidence-based policy making and therefore should be an integral part to good decision making by an organisation.” The EHRC reminds us that “Authorities which fail to carry out EIAs risk making poor and unfair decisions which may discriminate against particular groups and worsen inequality.”

Welsh Government are also clear about the value of an EIA. Their Annual Report on Equality (2016), states: “Equality Impact Assessments are live and continuous assessments which last the lifecycle of the decision or policy and, in some cases, beyond. In Welsh Government, on completion of Equality Impact Assessments, an action plan and review date is required. At this review date, the original assessment of impact on protected characteristics must be reconsidered and evaluated. Where new impacts are identified, or evidence has been gathered which supports our original assessment of impact, these are incorporated into the assessment.”

In response to an FOI submitted in March 2019, it appears that Welsh Government have lost the Equality Impact Assessment. Details of the FOI correspondence can be read here: -

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/equality_impact_assessment_for_t_2?fbclid=IwAR3ynVysZyzAr2l0lUQKH3IeYavXTvsnN4sjHVykgxTqVNREBbbkYXVivBk

The ‘Head of Gender Equality Review’ for Welsh Government states: “I can confirm that Welsh Government does not hold this information and it is not held by any other organisation. I understand that at the time of the development of the action plan an equality impact assessment was undertaken, to be updated throughout the consultation process. A decision was taken at the time not to publish the document until the consultation was completed. We have undertaken a thorough search, unfortunately, it appears that this document has been deleted from our electronic record system and is not available to access.”

In response to a further query, the Welsh Government Communities Division wrote: “...since the loss was only discovered following your request, no consideration has been given until now to replacing it. Given the passage of time since the Action Plan was published in 2016, doing so would be difficult and of limited value, since any such retrospective action would inevitably be affected by subsequent developments.”

This response is totally inconsistent with Welsh Government’s own description of an EIA as a “live and continuous assessment.” The Action Plan feeds into current and future Equality Reviews and ultimately policy making. It is not acceptable for Welsh Government to brush off the loss of an EAI in this way.

The Action Plan to advance equality for transgender people covers the following areas: - Children and Young People, Communities (Hate Crime, Violence Against Women, Domestic Abuse and Sexual Violence, Sport Public Transport), Public Services (Health, Housing) and the Workplace.

Such a wide ranging Action Plan means the impact of any action, policies or guidance are likely to have a considerable impact on all groups with Protected Characteristics. This makes the loss of the Equality Impact Assessment – and Welsh Government’s cavalier attitude towards it – a very serious breach of equality duty. The fact that Welsh Government were not even aware they had lost the EIA until an FOI was made is shocking.

How can a document be a “live and continuous assessment lasting the lifecycle of the decision or policy” when it does not exist? How can it be reviewed, reconsidered or evaluated? How can new impact or new evidence be taken into account?

LMC/WVW and many other women in Wales are concerned that Welsh Government’s transgender Action Plan did not consult widely enough on how women could be affected or consider the impact on women’s spaces, services and rights. We are very aware as feminists that Welsh Government – who provides guidance for other public bodies in Wales – must carry out its duty in terms of Equality law, and also be seen to do it. Their failure to do undermines public faith in both Welsh Government and Equality law, and has very real consequences for women in Wales.

LMC/WVW would like to see accountability for the loss of the EIA, and a new, comprehensive EIA made a priority. We would be grateful if you could let us know what steps EHRC Wales will take in raising the issue with Welsh Government.

chilling19 · 05/08/2019 15:04

Old great letter. Look forward to the reply.

FOIrequester · 05/08/2019 15:26

That's an excellent letter, Oldstyle. I hope you get a response from them (I am no longer optimistic about such things).

truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/08/2019 15:27

A very good letter that needs sharing widely. Hopefully you can get some media coverage??

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 05/08/2019 15:33

That's an extremely impressive letter, Oldstyle. I really don't envy the person asked to reply to you.

S1naidSucks · 05/08/2019 15:38

That’s fantastic letter and I wish it was published in one of the Welsh papers and online, so everyone can see how children and women’s safety has been completely overlooked, in order to appear woke.

Oldstyle · 05/08/2019 15:46

Yes it is a great letter. I didn't write it however (wish I had that clarity of thought!). Just happened to find it down the back of the sofa when I was looking for the EIA.

Other women are working out how to get this - and the campaign in general - circulated more widely. All suggestions appreciated.

FOIrequester · 05/08/2019 15:47

Welsh Government should have realised that the EIA was missing a year ago, when I first asked whether one had been carried out. Due to concentrating on other questions in my correspondence with them, it was several months before I asked again for them to send it to me. This was after they sent me a reply which could be summarised as 'go away, we've already answered all your questions' (they hadn't), so I went back to see which ones they'd failed to answer.

One question that they seem unable to answer is whether children in school should be taught that they can change sex. This was in the context of using the 'Gender Unicorn' to teach children about 'gender identity', as suggested by the TransForm Cymru Toolkit. Their reply to this was: "I am not able to comment on whether or not the Gender Unicorn is an appropriate resource for teaching children about gender identity. These issues are being explored through the UK Government’s consultation and the Welsh Government would not seek to provide a definitive answer at this stage."

Apart from the 'sex change' question and the related question of teaching children the belief system of 'gender identity' as though it were fact, the other questions they couldn't answer were about whether girls should have access to single-sex toilets and changing rooms in school, and their views on the TransForm Cymru toolkit position that breast binding in teenage girls shouldn't be discouraged.

When I asked again for an answer to these questions, the response was "I am sorry that you found the reply to your previous email unsatisfactory. I appreciate you taking the time to rephrase and clarify your questions. I am, however, unable to add substantively to the answers already provided. As I explained in my previous letter, these issues are being explored through the UK Government’s consultation and the Welsh Government would not seek to provide definitive answers before that process is complete."

What reform of the GRA has to do with teaching children about innate 'gender identity' and girls self-harming with breast binders is a mystery to me.

FOIrequester · 05/08/2019 16:17

This is the consultation which was carried out before the Transgender Action Plan was published. It was a bit difficult to find because it seems to have been shunted off into an archive.
<a class="break-all" href="https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160419022823/gov.wales/docs/dsjlg/consultation/150622-transgender-consultation-en.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160419022823/gov.wales/docs/dsjlg/consultation/150622-transgender-consultation-en.pdf

"The Transgender Action Plan will include the actions we must take to assess the impact of our decisions on transgender people using Equality Impact Assessments." (p.15)

It looks as though they had no intention of doing a proper Equality Impact Assessment from the start.

This is the summary of responses to the consultation. Also found in an archive.
<a class="break-all" href="https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160426123035/gov.wales/docs/dsjlg/consultation/151211-transgender-consultation-summary-of-responses-en.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160426123035/gov.wales/docs/dsjlg/consultation/151211-transgender-consultation-summary-of-responses-en.pdf

Satterthwaite · 05/08/2019 17:17

They all seem to be rewriting the Equality Act 2010 which I believe is still current and hasn't been amended to include 'gender' and/or 'gender identity' in the list of protected characteristics. According to UK legislation, sex and gender reassignment are the relevant protected characteristics, along with religion and belief and possibly race. You can't just rewrite Acts of Parliament to suit yourself!

FOIrequester · 06/08/2019 21:48

New FOI request.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/documents_relating_to_the_equali

FOIrequester · 06/08/2019 21:59

Text of my new FOI request.

I am making a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 to be supplied with the following information:

  1. Minutes of all meetings between 19/11/2014 and 14/03/2016 at which the Equality Impact Assessment for the ‘Welsh Government Action Plan to advance equality for transgender people’ was discussed or mentioned.
  1. All correspondence dated between 19/11/2014 and 14/03/2016 sent by or received by the Welsh Government in which the Equality Impact Assessment for the ‘Welsh Government Action Plan to advance equality for transgender people’ was discussed or mentioned. This should include all relevant internal communications within Welsh Government, as well as all relevant correspondence (email and paper) between Welsh Government and external organisations or individuals.
Cuntysnark · 06/08/2019 22:03

I’m in awe. Tenacious is your middle name!

FOIrequester · 06/08/2019 22:33

It's thanks to everyone on here who suggested that as a way forward that I've made the new request, Cuntysnark. I'd come to a halt after the internal review that went nowhere, and it was looking as though the only thing I could do was write to the ministers again, which has been pretty fruitless up to now.

Thanks also to MoleSmokes for pulling my FOI request out of obscurity and into the wider world.

HedgehogsRock · 06/08/2019 22:56

This would also be worth a letter to the Internal Audit section of the Welsh Government, reporting the apparent loss of the document to the IT?Computer Audit Team. Including a copy of the correspondence to date would also be helpful.
Their Corporate Complaints section would also be interested in the issue too.

HedgehogsRock · 06/08/2019 22:58

FOIrequester and MoleSmokes - a dream team!

Cuntysnark · 06/08/2019 23:08

Nevertheless you persisted

Oldstyle · 06/08/2019 23:51

Great to read the new FOI FOIrequester - keep at 'em. I'll alert the Twitterati to spread the joyous news.
#TheDogAteMyEIA
#WelshGovIgnoringWomen

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