Siblings transition aged 5 and 7

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Nope, no social contagion going on there at all.

Stock phrases, we don't want our kids to kill themselves, we are on the right side of history.

The 11 year old has started puberty blockers, no doubt the US culture of medicine being a business plays a part.

Daily Mail article

I can't help but be struck by the 'Before and After' pictures. In each, they're dressed very stereotypically boy or girl - long/short hair, shirts with flowers or skulls etc, depending on what they're identifying as.
It's still putting children in gender boxes, except now they're being encouraged to choose a box and then medicalised to fit if it's not the original one.
I still haven't seen a single child transition story that wasnt grossly reliant on sexual stereotypes.

So odd that in one part of the states you have "so liberal it's ridiculousness" going on then move down south and you have abortion banned and women potentially facing jail in right wing heaven...worlds gone crazy

"We are going about this because we are listening to our children and because are doing a lot of research, which has proven we are doing the right thing,' Ben added.

Oh yeah. What research?

doing a lot of research, which has proven we are doing the right thing

We were only following orders.

I'm always doubly sceptical about "trans" siblings.

Mainly because of this individual.

My toddler told me yesterday that she is a boy because she has a penis. She isn't, and she doesn't. Tomorrow she will probably be a tiger and have sharp claws.

I just really worry about the life changing impacts of even "social transition" on children so young, let alone the long term impacts of medical interventions.

And the previous poster is right. Always predicated on sexual stereotypes- flowery dress = girl, short hair = boy.

@HandsOffMyRights Baby boy cries when you put a blue baby grow on him? uumm

So odd that in one part of the states you have "so liberal it's ridiculousness" going on then move down south and you have abortion banned and women potentially facing jail in right wing heaven...worlds gone crazy

There’s probably a narrow Goldilocks Zone of sanity between them.

So odd that in one part of the states you have "so liberal it's ridiculousness" going on then move down south and you have abortion banned and women potentially facing jail in right wing heaven...worlds gone crazy

Not so odd; in one part of the states liberals hate women, going on down south right wing heaven hate women.

@Birdsfoottrefoil yes good point, we're getting it from every angle

I’ll say this till I’m blue in the face-there is no such thing as a trans child

That story is horrifying.
There is no way those children can have any comprehension of the long-term consequences of their decision. Permanent sexual dysfunction and infertility are not things that young children think about and nor should they.
Let them play with what they want, let them dress how they want, don't tell them that they can change sex because they can't.

Me too happy. No such thing as a trans child. Resist that language

Vegan cats and trans children.

We all know who decides.

Oh look at all the stereotypes in those photos, what a surprise!

If a girl wants short hair and jeans they are still a girl. A boy in a dress is still a boy.

My dd likes to play fetch im not going to put her in a fur suit and tell people to call her Fido tho. Kids like to play pretending to be different things, its a way of learning about the world and themselves.

There is no way either child can have any comprehension of what is invovled in this long term. I just hope their parents are as supportive picking up the pieces of this mess further down the line.

Olivia added: 'Being trans means you were born in the gender that you don't feel in your heart – anyone can be whoever they want to be, and it doesn't matter what your opinion is.'

7. Years. Old.

Outanabout you should feel mean; that was an unneccessarily mean thing to say. And it isn't true.

They seem like ordinary decent people to me, and certainly loving parents. I feel desperately sad for them because they think they're doing right by their kids. They're reading and absorbing and regurgitating all the manipulative stuff that the gender lobby wants them to be reading, about how minds and souls are gendered and how your kids will kill themselves if you question anything.

They think they are doing the right thing. I know it's tempting to judge them harshly but there has been a massive, extensive brainwashing operation going on and people like this are victims of it.

Their kids are the bigger victims, of course.

They are not decent people or loving parents. Because regardless of what they’re following in terms of guidance, propaganda, even the rights and wrongs of social transitioning, they’ve decided to it publicly. These children now have the extra pressure of this sort of article and publicity to deal with in their future. It’s not “sharing their story to break a taboo”, it’s seeking public validation for their choices. What if these children think it’s all bullshit when they’re old enough? Do they have an “out”? Will there now be undue pressure to continue? By having their life choices publicly aired like this, it makes all that much more difficult. Any decent person or parent wouldn’t have done that.

All I have in my head is the bit in The Lion King where the meercat shouts "What's going on here?!"
Knowing that they are the wrong gender at 4 FFS. Blockers by 11. Its so sad.

Bloody DM. Regardless of your opinion on this topic, that article is clearly written to hype up its readers to make nasty comments about the parents and kids. My view is that many children express dissatisfaction with their gender identity. The majority need conversations on gender stereotypes and reassurance that boys can have long hair and play with dolls or whatever, and a minority will feel that discomfort their entire lives and will transition as adults. It feels like there’s a group of people believe all those children fall into the first group and a group who believe they all fall into the second, whereas I think both things are possible (and hard to tell when children are very young). I would hope any parent whose child expresses those feelings spends a long time discussing stereotypes and reassuring their child first. And even if children do eventually decide to change their name or pronoun, it’s so important they know they can change back any time and will still be loved. Perhaps all those things are happening here, I don’t know.

That's a fair point about going public, NotBad.

I still think that comments like Outanabouts are unhelpful as well as uncalled for.