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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why are company logos still Rainbow-coloured?

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AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 26/07/2019 16:56

I noticed lots of company logos on facebook and twitter had been rainbow washed in June and assumed it was because of pride month.

I found pride month to be quite stressful, having seen the abuse the TRAs were dishing out to people online who dared to so much as question their ideology. It felt a bit like we were all forced to plaster on smiles and join along, otherwise we would be subjected to abuse too.

I assumed the companies' logos would all return to their normal logos when the clock struck July but I've noticed lots of them are still rainbow coloured and it's nearly the end of July. Have I missed something, is 2019 pride year or something?

Our society has so many issues right now such as poverty, the housing crisis, environmental crisis, animal rights etc etc but I don't see these causes getting whole months and lots of funding put towards them. Why is this?

To clarify, I say this as someone who has always supported people's rights to love who they want, dress how they want and marry who they want and someone who has always voted for left wing parties. Those rights were met years ago so I'm confused why we still all have to focus on them so much.

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ahagwearsapointybonnet · 27/07/2019 10:08

Yep. I have been thinking about changing jobs, but looking at the rainbow logos of places I might otherwise be interested in working now for the first time makes me hesitate, cos I'm wondering whether it means no female privacy in the toilets or showers, compelled speech, and no support if the office sleaze or office bully decides to become "female" and use that as a way of throwing their weight around (not out of the question based on some stories I've heard on here). It's depressing though because I was all for "inclusivity" and equality until it started to mean "except for women".

Rubidium · 27/07/2019 10:30

How long is it until LGBT History month?

wacademia · 27/07/2019 10:49

when formerly they would have discriminated against them and said "no way will I recruit a bloke in a dress".

  1. Employers already have to consider trans candidates by law unless they have a compelling reason not to, the Equality Act lists "gender reassignment" as a protected characteristic.
  2. Employers, including mine, are going way beyond that and introducing unisex toilets (which is fine because they are self-contained single-occupant) and policies that prohibit challenging someone in the opposite loo for their sex (not fine because it undermines privacy and safeguarding and infringes on women's sex-based rights, disabled women's rights (a disabled woman may be more vulnerable to assault and relies on rhe women's loos for safety), and religious women's rights).

At the same time, the pervy academics who creep on women, the gender sex pay gap, and the massive underrepresentation of female academics in some fields go unaddressed. So it does feel a lot to me like my employer's flying of the rainbow and trans flags is a signal that equality, diversity, and inclusion are only for people who have or have had penises.

NottonightJosepheen · 27/07/2019 10:57

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SingingLily · 27/07/2019 11:02

also rainbows are cool who don't like a nice rainbow lol

Me, when it has come to represent the marginalisation of women and the celebration of straight male fetishes and paraphilias.

Beautifully put, Bezalelle. That's the first thing I think of these days when I see a corporate rainbow.

Wizbetisanizbet · 27/07/2019 11:04

I wholeheartedly support being free to love and marry who you wish. However I cringe when I see the rainbow now as I see it as a symbol of the oppression of women.
I can't stand virtue signalling and I'm fed up of anything to do with pride now.

Imnobody4 · 27/07/2019 11:08

I want the rainbow back, it's a symbol of the beauty of nature and the science behind it.
Pride and Stonewall doing to the rainbow what Goebbels did to the swastika.

crazycurry · 27/07/2019 11:08

It's bandwagon virtue signalling. If they want to show their support for LBGTQ+ then do what a local supermarket does and employ transgender staff and support them wearing the uniform and name badge of their chosen sex/gender without any fuss.

wacademia · 27/07/2019 11:16

equality, diversity, and inclusion are only for people who have or have had penises

Or must be useful to people who have or have had penises.

There was a recent case of a lesbian couple attacked on a bus after refusing to provide a soft porn sex show to a gang of men. This case was almost universally framed in the media as a homophobic hate crime and stats were trotted out about the incidence of crimes against LGBTQwerty(1) people. This is because framing that attack as a crime against LGBTQwerty benefits G, male B, and male-born T. Only radical feminists were framing this as a crime of misogyny and male sexual entitlement, which of course it was: the all-male gang would not have demanded a sex show from anyone male-born. When being female intersects with being homo- or bisexual, the resulting oppression looks very different from what gay and bisexual men face. The LGBTQweerty ignore this because it's not beneficial to men and male-born trans people.

(1) Could we maybe just say "qweerty" for the whole of the rainbow alphabet soup?

LizziesTwin · 27/07/2019 11:18

Exactly @crazycurry, support people by employing them and treating them equally with other people, don’t just change your logo to a rainbow and think that’s enough.

scalliondays · 27/07/2019 12:28

Maybe it's time for a 'Free the Rainbow' campaign.

daisychain01 · 28/07/2019 06:52

The rainbow was a symbol of GAY rights. HomoSEXual rights. It was not about fucking trans.

But surely diversity in the workplace shouldn't be about picking and choosing who you are/are not going to discriminate against.

Calling a person, a human being a "fucking trans" is really vile, and you have shown your hatefulness in rainbow colours.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 28/07/2019 07:52

I agree with others who are saying that the aggressive transactivism has really made me feel slightly queasy about Pride and the rainbow and so on now. Every time I see it, I think of the eradication of women before anything else.

daisychain01 · 28/07/2019 08:43

aggressive transactivism is no better or worse than aggressive feminism.

Both are equally bad, trouble is people who are so dogmatic in their chosen perspective are blind to their own behaviour, and the effect it has on others.

MrsJamin · 28/07/2019 08:46

Yeah it gets my back up too now. Boots and marks and spencers still have the pride versions of their logos on Facebook. It's total virtue signaling to say "look how cool we are! We are down with the kids! Buy from us you younguns!" Hmm

XXcstatic · 28/07/2019 08:53

I'm wondering whether it means no female privacy in the toilets or showers, compelled speech, and no support if the office sleaze or office bully decides to become "female" and use that as a way of throwing their weight around (not out of the question based on some stories I've heard on here). It's depressing though because I was all for "inclusivity" and equality until it started to mean "except for women"

Exactly this. The rainbow now means "We will put men's fetishes before women's rights, and we'll call you a bigot if you point it out".

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 28/07/2019 15:23

Thanks everyone,

Yes that's exactly it, the rainbow symbol now to me feels ominous, because it has an aggressive 'inclusivity or else' vibe to it now that I know what happens when you go "erm, maybe it's not a very good idea to encourage kids to take hormones and get surgery" etc.

I never used to be bothered or even notice it before, I just thought 'good for them' if I ever saw photos of pride. But that was back when it seemed like a genuinely positive thing, it wasn't about encroaching on other people's lives back then. Now it has become the forefront of so many things - politics, company policies, language, toilets, sports, funding etc and we are all now forced to change our language and bow down to alarming, bizarre and unfair policies unless we want to get called transphobic right wing bigots etc.

Live your life however you like as long as it's legal, but don't force it on everyone else. How dare they try to steal our words and language from us and use them for themselves, whilst renaming us with degrading, derogatory nonsense terms. No, just no.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 28/07/2019 15:29

I've come to hate rainbows TBH. Ruined for me by the aggressive tactics of the male rights activists

This. I work in Central London & the rainbows everywhere just coming up to Pride felt really intimidating. I tried to avoid going in anywhere that had one.

MrsJamin · 28/07/2019 16:52

I mean this just looks shit

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