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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Glasgow life EQIA shows no impact removing single sex toilets but omits a woman reporting a predator 2 weeks previously

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miri1985 · 15/07/2019 20:21

twitter.com/shonacraven/status/1150713873621823488

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17770223.tramway-39-s-unisex-loos-centre-row-police-called/

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terfsandwich · 15/07/2019 20:34

Doesn't mention the lack of cleanliness which is what I'm finding to be the biggest day to day issue with these fucking unisex loos.

scotsheather · 15/07/2019 20:45

Assume they've 'consulted' with women happy to walk past men at urinals (has to be men) far less our young daughters. Again a policy to suit a number of men at our expense.

Gingerkittykat · 15/07/2019 20:49

Can I ask what tramway is? Is it a single venue?

They don't get that it is not just about offending. It is about privacy and dignity too.

Redshoeblueshoe · 15/07/2019 20:57

FFS

ScrimshawTheSecond · 15/07/2019 21:21

Tramway is an arts venue: theatre space, gallery space, cafe, bar etc.

It's right in Pollokshields, with the city's highest Muslim population - can't see unisex toilets going down a bomb with the locals, to be honest, but then Tramway has only ever made token gestures of outreach to the local community.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 15/07/2019 21:27

DH was saying today how uncomfortable and bad he would feel if he was in a mixed-sex loo and a woman came in and clocked him with that look women do when they're suddenly alone with a male stranger and you can see the flush of panic in their face. It makes him feel shit that he's made a woman feel like that.

And while normally he would apologise/leave/cross the road/etc, there wouldn't be anything he could do in this situation.

His point was that the only men who are fine with mixed-sex loos are the men who get a kick out of making women feel uncomfortable. And those are the last men you want to be sharing loos with.

Ereshkigal · 15/07/2019 21:49

His point was that the only men who are fine with mixed-sex loos are the men who get a kick out of making women feel uncomfortable. And those are the last men you want to be sharing loos with.

Yes, precisely.

wacademia · 16/07/2019 00:09

If these hare-brained arts venues (or anywhere else) make the mass-occupant loos unisex and you don't feel safe using them, ask to use the single-sex staff loos (which they have to have by law, and if they don't then give the staff a copy of the linked legislation) or ask for a same-sex staff chaperone. If they make a change that makes you feel unsafe, you still have the right to feel and be safe and it strikes me as eminently reasonable to ask them to shoulder the burden of ensuring of your safety when they are the agent of change by relabelling the loos in the first place.

Preferable to this would be if the loos stayed single-sex and trans people asked for staff chaperones to use the toilet of their birth sex safely (in the case of transwomen entering the male toilets) and without causing alarm to others (in the case of transmen who pass well entering the female toilets). Ideally we'd have single-occupant loos for trans folk, but if they can't be added to a building then staff chaperoning trans people would ensure ourand theirsafety.

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