Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Being a student when you're Fed Up With This Shit

32 replies

IMissGluten · 15/07/2019 13:38

Have just finished my second year at what feels like the world's wokest university and am pissed off at the prospect of yet another year buttoning my lip about gender shite. I go to a women's college which, the year after I leave, is going mixed (though technically it was mixed anyway as they announced about a year ago that they'd accept anyone describing themselves as a woman), and although I didn't choose it because it was a women's college, I've enjoyed being in a female environment. It's pretty much the only female environment left, because every event, society, whatever, that in the past would've been for women, is now for "women and non-binary". Why?! Including people who call themselves non-binary isn't even necessary to placate the TWAW lot. They're not women, according to them. So why invite them?

It seems the new gender orthodoxy has even been taken up by non-students; when I've made the odd irritated comment, I've been argued against. I do know of one department member who bravely signed a letter protesting a student union publication decrying "TERFs" but I don't have anything to do with her. And I know of one other student who feels how I do but she's also quite right-wing and we agree on little else. So I feel very alone — I'm planning on joining the radical feminist society but TBH I'm not utterly sure I'd describe myself that way.

The then-upcoming decision on allowing self-declared women into college was almost the sole topic of conversation in the one and only college LGBT society meeting I attended. Eight or so gay and bi women sitting around talking about how to bully the college into accepting male students. Fucksake.

I don't even know what answer I want to this. Just… the loss of female spaces, the silent pressure to stay quiet about the nature of reality, the posters and stickers everywhere saying TWAW and informing you that a man in the ladies' loos absolutely belongs there and you're a prejudiced bigot if you even think otherwise… it's bloody annoying.

OP posts:
IMissGluten · 15/07/2019 19:17

Did half the women on this board attend the same university or something Grin

Being at a mature college does help a bit with feeling isolated, but they're mostly still pretty young... they seem to be able to go out, get wankered, wake up at 5 to go to training, attend some lectures, bang out an essay, attend a supervision in the afternoon, have a quick nap, then do it all over again the next day, all while I'm still nursing the grandmother of all hangovers because my stupid 30-odd-year-old liver has decided it's Done With This Shit Thank You Very Much.

OP posts:
nonsenceagain · 15/07/2019 23:25

If you’re where I think you are, I’d contact the radical feminist society. You’ll probably meet some kindred spirits but if not, you won’t have to go back. If I didn’t have my GC friends, I’d go mad.

RiotAndAlarum · 16/07/2019 21:10

Did half the women on this board attend the same university or something

Oh, no, darling, you (along with @Spinster of Arts) are the ones) validating us! None of this bullshit to rail against when I were a privileged Gen X undergraduate.

IMissGluten · 16/07/2019 22:07

Fair enough 😄

To be fair I'm sure the Young Conservatives and the baby Marxists used to be faaaaar worse than they are now…

OP posts:
IMissGluten · 16/07/2019 23:13

I'm just a poor innocent millennial swimming in a sea of Gen. Zs…

It's actually been a pretty strange experience in some ways. I thought the biggest cultural differences to get to grips with when I went to university might be to do with social class or nationality. But in fact it's been the generational differences in what matters most to people politically which have stood out — for the current lot of university students the biggest issues seem to be the environment, intersectionality, decolonisation, and of course transgenderism. (I have no major beef with the first three but have never engaged with related movements to any significant extent.) I question myself constantly as to whether my GC views mean I'm out of touch — just old and prejudiced — and that really messes with my concept of myself as a progressive liberal leftie 😂

OP posts:
ukcamstudent · 18/07/2019 13:32

Cambridge Radical Feminist Network here -- JOIN US.

We are a loose network of women who basically meet up just to discuss stuff. We don't all agree with each other on everything and we don't expect it. Not all of our members describe themselves as 'radical feminists'. Some of us are closer to Marxism, others simply describe themselves as feminists. What unites us is a willingness to discuss things honestly, openly, and realistically.

We're currently on break for the summer so are not doing any official discussion groups at the moment, but some of us are still around Cambridge now (incl me) and have been to the pub a few times after term has ended just to hang out, so if you want to join us at any point, send us an email - [email protected] - and I'll add you to the contact list for the next time we meet up.

We have undergrads, postgrads, and a lot of women from the broader Cambridge community. Anybody here who is interested - like us on Facebook / follow us on Twitter (camradfems), and keep an eye out for announcements of new events. We've got big plans for new year. Wink

IMissGluten · 18/07/2019 17:40

How do you know I'm in Cambridge? Grin I might be anywhere!

I made contact with someone earlier in the vacation to try and feel out whether the group seemed like it might be a good fit — I'm glad to hear it's more ideologically and demographically diverse than I was concerned it might be. I think I was added to the mailing list then, though I'm not absolutely sure.

Would be nice to be able to talk openly with other women about feminist stuff… presumably discussion isn't all focused on issues around extremist transgenderism at the moment?

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page