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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender Dissenter Gets Fired

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FleetsumNJetsum · 15/07/2019 11:07

www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/allen-josephson-gender-dissenter-gets-fired/

Dr. Allan Josephson discusses academic freedom, child welfare, gender ideology, and the price he has paid for his principles

Interviewed by Madeleine Kearns:

MK: The other thing you mentioned is that — to those outside this world — it can seem as though there are only a handful of doctors expressing your view, which makes them much easier to dismiss as crackpots or whatever.

AJ: I think it takes a certain academic perspective and knowledge of the field to say something. It can be lonely. For me, it was really three things.

First, it was a conviction that I had been wronged. It was just this moral sense. You don’t do this to someone who had worked this hard for university and in a few weeks get rid of them for expressing a view, which is really part of your job description. So there was a kind of a righteous indignation.

Second, I saw parents and children being hurt by this. These kids are, for the most part, very vulnerable people. You can see that when you spend time with them. Certainly, the teenagers have multiple problems. Most of the time, 60 or 70 percent of the time, depression, anxiety, substance abuse, they’re hurting people. And parents are confused because they’re basically getting one message from medical and mental-health professionals and that is “Affirm people.” And so I have encouraged people to explore before prescribing treatment, specifically to consider other developmental factors, family factors, that have gone into the insecurities that are associated with this.

And, and then finally, I spoke up because I’m at the end of my career. I have accomplished a lot professionally and had an established reputation. If someone like me can be demoted, harassed, and then effectively fired for expressing my views, think of what an intimidating effect this has on younger professionals, who are not yet established in their careers. And that should not be how academics proceeds or how science proceeds. We think together, we reason together, we talk together. My colleagues couldn’t do that. And I think we see that nationally as well.

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littlbrowndog · 15/07/2019 11:18

Very good read.

This stood out to me below

Why should a child declare that there’s something that they’re biologically not? That’s a fascinating intellectual question in what is going on here. But there’s a shutdown of any investigative kind of thinking. That’s a real problem

OtepotiLilliane42 · 15/07/2019 11:28

I have a feeling that Diane Ehrensaft who wrote 'The Gender Creative Child:Pathways for Nurturing and Supporting Children Who Live Outside Gender Boxes' was one of the people who led the charge against Dr Allan Josephson.

I tried reading the book, and gave up after a while, but I seem to recall a paragraph in which she celebrated Professor Josephson losing his job.

If I am wrong I am willing to stand corrected,

WootMoggie · 15/07/2019 12:59

Ah... She of "Transgender Babies" infamy:

JessicaWakefieldSV · 15/07/2019 13:13

And that should not be how academics proceeds or how science proceeds. We think together, we reason together, we talk together. My colleagues couldn’t do that. And I think we see that nationally as well.

We are seeing it globally

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 13:45

This woman should be deprived of her licence and jailed. She is a danger to children.

GirlDownUnder · 25/07/2019 04:45

I've just read this article and it's a stark warning.

AJ: That is a very, very perceptive comment. I have kind of a joke with some of my family and friends. One of the ways that you diagnose transgenderism, according to the lingo, is that if a child is “persistent, consistent, and insistent” in the demand that they are the gender opposite to their biological sex, then it must be true. When I saw that, my knee-jerk response was, “Do these people have children?” Because in the process of raising children, they insistently, persistently, consistently demand lots of things that are not good for them, whether it’s turning off the computer, eating your own food, staying up too late, and it’s the parents’ job then to guide them to say, This is what you need to do to be healthy.

This comment and then this..

MK: Is it possible that we will get to a situation where a child comes into a clinic, diagnoses themselves, and prescribes their own treatment, and clinicians are powerless to do anything but go right ahead?

AJ: We are very close to that now. There are now over 50 gender clinics in the United States. These were unheard of seven or eight years ago. And they’re set up real, almost like - if I may use a crude analogy - a restaurant where a person comes in and orders a treatment.

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