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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video aiming to show variety of trans people's opinions

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SpinsterOfArts · 13/07/2019 21:32

I came across this on YouTube and found it interesting:

It's called 'Do All Trans People Think The Same?' and the format is that six people are asked questions, stand along an agree/disagree scale, and then discuss. Of course the answer is that they don't all think the same, but some of the comments were quite revealing.

The only one to think that surgery is important is the middle-aged late-transitioner.
A couple, interestingly, spoke about gender roles being harmful. One transman thinks that gender roles are important as they were helped to know that they were trans by knowing they didn't fit the feminine role.

There were some alarming comments about sexual orientation, including one essentially saying that being gay or straight wasn't about being attracted to people with penises or vaginas but to men or women (using the genderist definition of those words). Another thought it was better to just be attracted to 'human beings'. To me, this really demonstrates the incompatibility of L and G with a certain strand of T ideology that is being heavily pushed at the moment.

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sakura184 · 14/07/2019 00:53

Thanks for sharing. I haven't watched it as I'm sure it would annoy me. What I think is relevant is the title because there's this argument that "not all women think the same, therefore anyone can be a woman" whereas in truth transwomen do actually believe all women think the same/are the same

It's some sort of patriarchal reversal

I had to laugh when I heard some interview featuring Julia Long and a transwoman. And the transwomen declared, with infinite wisdom, that not all women were the same. And therefore you could find different sorts of women in the changing rooms. And the examples he gave of women not being the same was that there were lesbian women and angry women.

"Angry women?" interjected the interviewer in disbelief

"Yes, angry women"

Angry women are a "type" of woman you might find, like lesbian women.

Julia said, we'll yes we know there are different kinds of women, it's men we don't want in the changing rooms 😂

LassOfFyvie · 14/07/2019 02:02

The older trans woman and the young black trans man were the most sympathetic. I'm still none the wiser what non - binary is

The person in the black lace blouse was awful and delusional. Re the question about difficulties in dating I suspect they are the least successful. They are so obviously a man- and not "hot" as they described themselves.

Of the others the trans man passed, although possibly, less so in real life. The other 3 looked like trans women and there are people who are interested in trans women. It is perhaps easier to find a partner if one presents openly as a trans woman.

Thingybob · 14/07/2019 08:32

Thanks for sharing Spinster, I found it interesting.

Of the others the trans man passed, although possibly, less so in real life

It was the trans man I felt most for as yes they pass at the moment (although very short for a man) and like many trans men have boyish good looks which I assume helps with dating.

However I don't think they will be so successful in a few years as a short, rounded, bald and prematurely aged man.

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