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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Challenor on LBC this morning

108 replies

koshkat · 11/07/2019 10:19

Much to my horror and surprise I heard the dulcet tones of Aimee Challenor on the Nick Ferrari show this morning. I was half asleep (school hols, forgive me!) and sat bolt upright as AC defended the suspension of the doctor recently.

Ferrari was having none of it and then went on to questin AC about the plethora of male prisoners iding as women and asked AC to comment. AC would not comment because to call these men fakers would put AC in a very awkward position. Also AC did not sound like the brightest bulb in the box - not a shock.

I was amazed that this nappy wearing furry (this is all out in the open MN btw) - roundly discredited and found lacking by the Greens - was commenting on national radio as if they are some sort of intelligent voice in this debate. Why do researchers not do their jobs properly?

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EverardDigby · 15/07/2019 20:40

I've (very reluctantly) screen shotted some of it (yuck). These people have some very dark stuff going on. I'm not sure who Aimee is connected with anymore, but there are some definite safeguarding issues here.

OhHolyJesus · 15/07/2019 20:46

Someone who doesn't have the same kind of boundaries as most sane people.

I'm reminded of that actress who took her husband back after thousands of images of children being raped were found on his computer. Images are fine as it's not rape, it's just images of rape. Fantasising about raping children is fine as it's just a fantasy. Like the NOMAPs, as long as you're a non offending paedo it's fine, it's just the offending ones we need to worry about.

So very very sick and wrong. Feeling nauseous now.

AC has had one hell of an upbringing if AC finds this sort of individual attractive. I wish AC well in a future career in politics...in America.

OhHolyJesus · 15/07/2019 20:51

Veritas found that AC didn't understand safeguarding but AC is on the Stonewall Trans Advisory Committee, no idea how exposed AC is to children or vulnerable adults but even writing policy around trans issues is concerning to me if you don't understand what safeguarding actually is.

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/07/2019 21:22

Well this is all going to go down well in the future in the hoc.

This isn't normal Aimee.

MsMcWibble · 15/07/2019 21:25

Screen shot. This is foul.
Lib Dems - what are you doing?

CraftyWoman · 15/07/2019 21:35

Sweet baby Jesus, the response is actually worse than the original post. Who knew that was possible.

Aimee, get help.

MollyButton · 15/07/2019 21:49

The safeguarding issues about AC don't even need all of this searching - just read the report on her involvement in the Green Party and mistakes with respect to David Challenor. It is clear that AC has no capacity to understand safeguarding matters. Therefore AC is a danger to vulnerable people and children.
That other organisations are not taking this seriously is very worrying - and the good work is in danger of being destroyed by the eventual backlash.

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 22:06

You can never believe that it's "just fantasy."

That's the defence for so many men who download child abuse images of real children being abused, too.

Fantasy unfortunately, has a real risk of leaking out into reality. And publishing that vile shit can in fact be prosecuted:

www.pressgazette.co.uk/former-sunday-telegraph-deputy-news-editor-ben-leapman-jailed-for-seven-years-for-rape/

This guy - was firstly convicted of writing an obscene article, (child abuse related) and downloading indecent images of children - which he claimed was "just fantasy". He was later convicted of repeatedly raping a woman.

“The defendant will, no doubt, say these were all fantasies,” said Miss Laws.

“We say these obsessive late night chats about violent sex and rape with strangers is part of why he started to treat (the woman) in the way he did.”

www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/award-winning-journalist-repeatedly-raped-woman-19562/

Challenor on LBC this morning
Voice0fReason · 15/07/2019 22:12

This kind of fantasy that he has written about and published online normalises the behaviour in his head.
It is not normal, it is not acceptable. It is a step towards real life abuse.
Why would he feel the need to share this stuff with others if not to normalise it?
It's revolting.

Sportsnight · 15/07/2019 22:23

Wow. That’s some seriously damaged thinking. No one seems to be rushing to his defence either.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 15/07/2019 22:26

This is hideous. The lib dems have to do something, unless they want to cement the fact that they don't care about the sexual exploitation of vulnerable people.

picklemepopcorn · 15/07/2019 22:29

Just because you are prepared to admit to something out loud, doesn't mean that thing is ok! Take some responsibility for goodness' sake.

LangCleg · 15/07/2019 22:31

It always comes back to safeguarding.

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 22:51

I see that despite the fact that he claims to be "happy to address this openly" - he's taken that You Tube video down.....

Howslow · 15/07/2019 22:52

....was i supposed to feel better after reading that dude's response? Hmm

littlbrowndog · 15/07/2019 23:17

Omg I just read this on twitter. Ffs

How the heck can this be right. Fantasy of sex with children forced or not

chilling19 · 15/07/2019 23:22

Little I just read it as well - horrendous.

Needmoresleep · 15/07/2019 23:27

Aimee's chances of a spousal visa may be lower than she thinks. First I think the fiance needs to earn enough to sponsor her, and second Homeland Security, or whoever it is, are known to check social media etc, and that is assuming either of them are not already on some watch list.

And if US authorities are not sure, the process is achingly slow (or was for a friend who had no obvious reason to be refused and who could afford good lawyers). Aimee's background may not withstand much scrutiny.

Just had a thought...do US authorities read Kiwi Farms?!

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 15/07/2019 23:27

Jesus fucking Christ, what did I just read?!?!

Who is that guy?
I missed the original post before it was deleted.

IT'S NOT NORMAL TO FANTASISE ABOUT ABUSING CHILDREN. YOU ARE A VERY UNWELL PERSON.

Can this nightmare end now please?

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 23:29

IT'S NOT NORMAL TO FANTASISE ABOUT ABUSING CHILDREN. YOU ARE A VERY UNWELL PERSON.

I think that bears repetition.

Jeez, what is WRONG with these people??

2BthatUnnoticed · 15/07/2019 23:49

I do not genuinely wish to rape a person of any age.

🚩🚩🚩

pombear · 15/07/2019 23:51

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stealthsquirrelnutkin · 15/07/2019 23:53

I owe Aimee a big thank you for a tweet that pointed me in the direction of the newly formed Church of Reality.

I was already following @WomansCraft but don't look at twitter every day and missed the thread on 25th June. So it was lovely of Aimless to tweet and bring it to my attention.

My religion is Reality and these are my deeply, sincerely and enduringly held beliefs:

1. There are 2 sexes: female and male
2. Humans cannot change sex"

In order to join my religion, you must:

1. Swear to promote and uphold these tenets
2. Be a human female

I think I may have found a spiritual home at last.

I've just been to twitter.com/RelOfReality and now am waiting patiently for the Church of Reality to welcome me into the fold.

AlwaysComingHome · 16/07/2019 00:35

I think this latest stuff needs a thread of its own. I’d hate for people to miss it because they think we are still talking about This Morning

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 01:42

I agree Always. I fell down a twitter hole ref Lindsay Shepherd getting suspended because JY and came across this hot mess.

It’s awful. And the person linked (Nathaniel Knight, partner of Aimee Challenor) has already admitted to some kind of inappropriate contact with a minor if his following first statement is to be believed;

Nathaniel Knight @kharonalpua 6h
Replying to @

  1. I have given a reply to a self-claimed thirteen-years-old girl on Quora on the topic of Masturbation. I offered the advice that masturbation is natural and should be explored safely as she sees fit. I posted no images or graphic descriptions there

I searched MN and this was the only current thread on this subject.