Self-ID and nationality

[AnyOldPrion]

Dr. Lawrence notes that the rates of autogynephilia are highest in individualistic countries and lowest in collectivist ones.

www.dangerous.com/41476/truth-autogynephilia-really-wears-pants-transgender-coup/

I was reading the linked article and this quotation caught my eye.

I live in a country where self-ID is already in place, and though I can’t be certain there are no problems occurring, they aren’t very apparent. Given that, I have given a great deal of thought as to why I have an instinctive feeling that self-ID in the U.K. would be very much worse.

I live in one of the Scandinavian countries, and I’ve noticed huge differences, large and small, from U.K. society. For example, at work, many things are decided “by committee”. There’s no shame in asking for help, or another person’s opinion when your struggling.

In addition, communities work together on a more or less voluntary basis to maintain shared areas such as playgrounds and village halls. Those who don’t join in tend to be regarded negatively.

But perhaps what I’d missed, as I thought over why I felt self-ID was relatively safe where I lived, was that it may be that there simply are fewer AGP men. There are certainly fewer of the hyper arrogant men I came across relatively frequently in various places in the U.K., and a lot less sexism in general. (I mention the hyper arrogant men as those visibly leading the trans agenda seem to tend towards that kind of toxic masculinity),

I guess what I’m trying to say in my roundabout way, is that when people say “oh they’ve had self-ID in xyz country and there’ve been no (very few) problems,” it doesn’t remotely follow that it will be safe in the U.K.

If you want to know how it would be in the U.K., rather look to Canada and the parts of the US where it is implemented. Over there, the cracks appear to be widening rapidly.

I think it's a big leap from acknowledging a correlation between individualistic societies and higher rates of AGP etc and vaguely racial stereotyping. I wouldn't presume to understand Scandinavian masculinity in any great depth despite having lived in Finland and Norway for a year. I found Norway stiflingly anti-individualistic at times: difference really wasn't very acceptable, there was pressure to conform and clearly that would suppress certain behaviours, such as AGP. There are big differences in the way people express themselves — the lack of social smalltalk was something that I noticed — and just because men in your country don't display their arrogance in the way men in other countries might doesn't necessarily mean that they don't feel it. Rates of domestic violence are relatively high in Scandinavia and that, surely, says something about what's going on despite the collectivist ethos.