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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

No single sex accommodation only self-id

10 replies

GrimDamnFanjo · 07/07/2019 16:53

Saw a Facebook ad for what sounded like a cool organised tour in a European country for people working in my industry.
I clicked through to the site and where it addresses "gender" as the industry is quite blokey.
As it mentioned gender identification and not sex I queried the accommodation (double rooms, single occupancy for higher rate) on the Facebook ad.
You've guessed it, rooms are sorted according to the gender you identify with not your sex.

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GrimDamnFanjo · 07/07/2019 16:56

And explicitly self-Id. It's a us organised event, but even so, no provision made for women who would be sharing with a stranger and would prefer one of the same sex!

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2cats2many · 07/07/2019 16:58

That's crap. I'd be very uncomfortable and extremely pissed off if I'd booked then turned up to find I was sharing with a man.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 07/07/2019 17:37

Let them know they won’t be getting your business

timeforakinderworld · 07/07/2019 17:42

That's awful! My dh runs a summer course in a specialist field where participants are allocated a space in a double room. They have one trans woman who sometimes but not always presents as female. This person will not share with a man but how can they be put in with a woman who doesn't know them? The only solution is to put them in a room on their own and share the extra cost among all participants. He is worried this won't be acceptable though.

ImGenderfree · 07/07/2019 17:58

This is going to be impacting on women’s ability to get on in their career. How many obstacles do we need.

Lumene · 07/07/2019 18:31

They have one trans woman who sometimes but not always presents as female. This person will not share with a man but how can they be put in with a woman who doesn't know them?

!?!?!?

redredrobins · 07/07/2019 22:19

If they refuse to share with a man charge them the extra cost. Why should every one else pay more!

wibbletooth · 07/07/2019 22:27

Time could he say that it’s safeguarding and insurance issues and that he is only covered for people’s sex rather than gender and thus if he can’t find somebody who will volunteer to share with them (if your dh wants to enable this) then fine but if not he can share by sex ie with a man or pay the full single rate. Is he a participant he wants there or would he be bothered if he decided not to come this year?

timeforakinderworld · 07/07/2019 22:30

From what I've gathered this person is still transitioning. My dh really doesn't want to put anyone in an awkward situation but it does highlight how tricky it is balancing everyone's needs.

Bowlofbabelfish · 08/07/2019 12:01

If they would charge single occupancy for any other reason (for example a person who wants privacy for something like a stoma) then they can charge the extra for this person. Hurt feelings arent a medical condition

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