Cheshire police chairman sacked over LGBT lanyard comments

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This popped up on my news feed, so thought I would share it here.

www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/cheshire-police-chairman-sacked-over-16538058

He organised an extraordinary panel meeting to resolve the issue, which he states was not about the specific lanyard, but about police impartiality. His comments included:

"... If officers were allowed to wear rainbow lanyards then why not badges belonging to other organisations that helped address issues facing the police", he asked.

“Should we ignore Women’s Aid. Cheshire has a domestic abuse problem and the constabulary’s record on solving rape cases appears to be sinking without trace? Let us not forget Shelter - the homeless on the streets is an ever increasing problem.”

(Continues)

David Keane.

Nuff said.

Who is David Keane?

I hope he’s lawyering up and taking it to tribunal.

There's an awful lot going in that story isn't there's.

It sounds like he started in on a random police officer at an inappropriate time.

Police can and do show their support for/ get involved in lots of different communities and events it's part of the job.

Their objection to his use of the word homosexual can be read a number of ways.

Is vinteresting i think he may have been a dick though.

Cheshire PPC

Let's just say he has a reputation and leave it at that. Mainly cos I can't say anymore than that on MN.

What the hell's wrong with the word 'homosexual'? This namby-pambying around words because you're embarrassed to use the actual name is ridiculous.

I don't know anything about the people involved, but I agree that police officers should not wear political statements while in uniform.

I don't know anything about Bob Fousert, but he could have been behaving like an idiot when he questioned Julie Coates about her lanyard.

I also didn't know that homosexual was considered offensive!

I wondered what the outcome might have been if an officer had been wearing a lanyard representing, say, Women's Aid or Shelter (as Bob Fousert suggested) or Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace etc.?

I'd have sympathy if he was being forced to wear one but not for having a go at someone who was.

Sacking him for it seems very OTT though. Usually you need to go through verbal and written warnings unless you have done something serious which whinging about a lanyard isn't.

He said by and large the term ‘homosexual’ was seen as offensive in the modern world.

My mouth literally fell open when I read this.

Vis-a-vis the lanyard issue, is it true that other such symbols are allowed under police dress code or not? I can’t tell whether he raised this in an appropriate manner, but it doesn’t seem like an unreasonable question, given recent reports regarding police impartiality.

He said by and large the term ‘homosexual’ was seen as offensive in the modern world.

Yes, women aren't allowed say they're homosexual.

That was what worried me too Juells.

Have to wonder, whether this was seized upon as an opportunity to get rid of someone asking inconvenient questions about impartiality.

If the police officer in question had been wearing a Woman’s Aid lanyard, do we really think this fuss would have ensued? Or would the parties have had a discussion about police dress codes and the way to raise issues in an appropriate manner, followed by everyone moving on.

He said by and large the term ‘homosexual’ was seen as offensive in the modern world.

The 'modern world'.

Yeah, every civilisation has always thought of themselves as 'modern'.

FFS!

This shit has to stop.

The term 'homosexual' is considered outdated by Stonewall's standards.

www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms

HOMOSEXUAL This might be considered a more medical term used to describe someone who has a romantic and/or sexual orientation towards someone of the same gender. The term ‘gay’ is now more generally used.

Re the lanyards. Of course he is right.

David Keane:

www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/17677037.david-keane-confirms-he-will-contest-cheshire-pcc-election-for-labour/

If officers were allowed to wear rainbow lanyards then why not badges belonging to other organisations that helped address issues facing the police, he asked.

“Should we ignore Women’s Aid. Cheshire has a domestic abuse problem and the constabulary’s record on solving rape cases appears to be sinking without trace? Let us not forget Shelter - the homeless on the streets is an ever increasing problem.”

Well..quite. I don't get the issues with what he said, at all.

Also, homosexual being an offensive word 'in the modern world' and the odd reference to Putin using the word as if that somehow proves something..is just bizarre!

Oh aye, all the decent types are gay and queer these days.

Anyone claiming to still be homoSEXuals or lesbians in 2019 are obviously choosing those cruel exclusionary terms with the sole intent of causing anguish. A sharp edged weapon of hatred that we have honed with evil intent, so that we can thrust our cruelty straight into the hearts of the most vulnerable group of people ever to exist on this planet. Either that or we are committing the equally heinous crime of failing to centre trans people in our every thought and deed.

It is an article of belief in the church of Transgenderism that only spite, and our innate hatefulness, prevent us from embracing the gay mangina and lesbian penis.

Clinging to a homosexual identity is now the only kink that is unwelcome under Stonewalls wide umbrella of "acceptance without exception".

Stonewall also describes transsexual as "old fashioned". We see their agenda.

"mangina"

😐 😯 😲 😂

*Anyone claiming to still be homoSEXuals or lesbians in 2019 are obviously choosing those cruel exclusionary terms with the sole intent of causing anguish. A sharp edged weapon of hatred that we have honed with evil intent, so that we can thrust our cruelty straight into the hearts of the most vulnerable group of people ever to exist on this planet. Either that or we are committing the equally heinous crime of failing to centre trans people in our every thought and deed.

Yes ^ Trans trumps all.

Stonewall know what they are doing. And it stinks.
The are now institutionally homophobic. They no longer recognise lesbianism as what it actually is. Being a homosexual is now deemed problematic as it is "exclusionary".
Please please please someone in the media call them out.

This is extraordinary on the facts reported. Someone in public office raised a question. Was accused of wrongthink. Used words from the dictionary to clarify his position. Forced out and sent for reeducation. Looks like the UK might soon borrow the blueprints for the giant reeducation camps China are building and we will all be in them.

Or we will learn to obey and not question this shit.

“In the last month only two people in some form of public office have gone about talking about gay people as homosexuals. One is the chair of the Cheshire police and crime panel and one is Vladimir Putin,” he added
I'm starting to think maybe Putin is responsible for all this. He must have developed some chemical weapon or force field to scramble the brains of 90% of people in a public position.

David Keane is extremely unpopular with some factions of Warrington Labour Party.

Have to wonder, whether this was seized upon as an opportunity to get rid of someone asking inconvenient questions about impartiality.

Well. That would be... Erm.. Yes... Well... Ahem... That would be highly consistent with what I know of Mr Keane.

As I say.

David Keane is extremely unpopular within factions of Warrington Labour Party and not without good reason I might add...

He didn't get position through being talented and a shiny example of someone serving the public.

He is a career politician lacking in charm, work ethic, intellence and having a certain ruthlessness to keep hold of his cushy £80,000 a year job.

He certainly isn't someone I'd trust to uphold standards in the police given his own track record.

He is one of those people whom has a whiff that follows him around that when ever his name is mentioned. And that's amongst people who you'd expect to be generally sympathetic politically to him.

He's already been plagued with scandal which he seemed to have escaped with a teflonlike skills.

Do read the comments on that Northwich guardian article. They are on the kind side of what I know.

I would vote Brexit Party rather than for David Keane if given the opportunity. Hell I'd vote for ANYONE who wasn't David Keane.

He is a career politician lacking in charm, work ethic, intellence and having a certain ruthlessness to keep hold of his cushy £80,000 a year job.

By Cheshire East standards, that's pretty much crumbs off the table. I agree he isn't a pinnacle of good standards within public office. I can think of a few who are, who never get the recognition they deserve, and for that reason, I will vote Labour as long as I live in this part of Cheshire East.

Yes Cheshire East standards are not good. But he's bad even by that as a bench mark.

I'm deliberately being guarded and polite.