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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Genuine question to any lesbian woman who feels like answering

31 replies

ahumanfemale · 03/07/2019 21:12

I honestly do not understand how any single lesbian can think that someone with a penis is a potential sexual partner for them and it makes no difference. Unless trans lesbians are only potential partners for other lesbians and not them personally? Or do they not believe that trans women also identify as lesbians? Or is there a lesbian culture that actually wants to have sex with a real penis as long as it's a lady dick?? What is going on in the lesbian community where there is so much more support for women with cocks than women who refuse to have sex with women with cocks?

This isn't goady. I'm genuinely confused because as a relatively straight woman I'm aghast at self-ID and how that would impact my safety and sense of safety in a single sex environment, never mind the idea of that changing who I was "allowed" to be sexually attracted to without being a bigot. I'm also shocked at the language and threats of violence I see online from the trans activists and their admirers and it is a massive red flag..but somehow do they not see this?

I don't know anybody well enough in RL to ask this to, which is why I'm posting here. I've also not really found much about it online. If there's a good article, please just link it rather than waste your time explaining it to me - I'm aware this is "education" but I'm not sure where else to ask!

Thanks in advance to anybody who replies!

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S1naidSucks · 04/07/2019 20:25

I will press on, however. I am no quitter. I am a rebel. I don’t accept things just because that’s “the way they are.” I will continue the quest for my fair maiden. The Cotton Ceiling must be broken

That whole article actually sends shivers down my spine, with the sense of entitlement and ownership of lesbian’s bodies.

itsbetterthanabox · 04/07/2019 20:28

I think it's bi women who call themselves lesbian or 'queer' that want to date TIM.
I'm bi and I have felt attraction to trans men and trans women. I like androgyny too.
I wouldnt date someone who wasn't gender critical though.
However I definately only feel those attractions because I'm bi.
I think its bi women that are dating TIM and they just all say queer now.

donquixotedelamancha · 04/07/2019 20:36

Why do you need to understand who is sleeping with who and why?

I think we can all agree that the world would be a better place if we tried to understand each other a bit less.

PlinkPlink · 04/07/2019 20:44

What happened to pansexuals?

I've never heard/seen anyone refer to it in the feminism boards (but admittedly I do pop in and pop out quite frequently so I really may babe missed it).

If it is still around, why are people hesitant to use it?? A person who is sexually attracted to a trans person is pansexual... aren't they?

ahumanfemale · 04/07/2019 23:43

Plink i got the impression that it has disappeared because it separates out trans people from men and women. So you'd be bi if you fancied biological men and women and pan if you fancied biological AND trans men and women. However that further ties into lesbian erasure because if you're a lesbian and twaw then you're neither bi nor pan if you're attracted to a tw, because twaw.

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 05/07/2019 00:10

I think its bi women that are dating TIM and they just all say queer now.

This was true of the only woman I've known to date a TW. When I met her she said she was bi but preferred women, then she met a TW and started calling herself queer. They split up pretty quick as (get ready to be shocked) the TW was a self absorbed domineering entitled twat. I didn't ask her many questions about it all as it wasn't my business, but I definitely got the impression she felt like she had to give them a chance to prove she wasn't transphobic. It must really really suck to be a young lesbian atm.

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