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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Nagging Wife' arrested for controlling behaviour

37 replies

TransposersArePosers · 27/06/2019 09:36

This story in the Daily Mail has made me really cross. Yorkshire again, but North Yorkshire this time. I agree with her comment below - although whether she was 'nagging' only she knows. (But then who decides - the person who is being repeatedly asked, or the person who does the repeated asking when earlier requests fall on deaf ears?)

She said: 'These laws were brought in to help protect vulnerable people who are suffering in relationships - not to prosecute nagging wives. It's outrageous this ever got to court'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7186111/Catterick-woman-58-arrested-controlling-behaviour-asking-husband-help-home.html

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Pota2 · 27/06/2019 18:26

I don’t think we should belittle the victim just because he is male. It’s not impossible for women to coercively control men. However, it’s quite unusual because men hold greater social power and coercive control involves a significant power imbalance

Erythronium · 27/06/2019 19:11

It was pretty obvious that this law would be used against women.

He's not a victim, the case was thrown out. Men lie all the time about this kind of stuff. It's like DV abusers claiming to be victims themselves.

ZebrasAreBras · 27/06/2019 19:33

Yes I agree with pp, every law passed to protect vulnerable women, ends up being used by men against women. At least we can be thankful this was thrown out.

Wanting your husband to do his share is not coercive control - can't believe it got to court.

ZebrasAreBras · 27/06/2019 19:36

And what has it being Yorkshire got to do with anything?

Yorkshire police forces have shown consistent failures in protecting women & girls from grooming, sexual abuse, stalking, murder...

Yet they're like shit off a shovel if anyone says something a trans activist doesn't like on Twitter. They're straight on that.

madcatladyforever · 27/06/2019 23:31

Any menopausal woman could be accused of coersive control - because at that age we get sick of their shit and start demanding they do their share of the work.
If they don't want to because they are busy obsessing over their hobbies - cycling, bodybuilding, dressing up in latex or whatever what are we supposed to do?
Just let them ride roughshod over us? I suppose the only other option is to say nothing, just in case we get dragged to court for CC, and petition for divorce for unreasonable behaviour.
My 40 year old son said if his current relationship broke up he'd be too scared to date anyone else and would go celibate because consent, coercive control etc is so scary he'd be afraid to put a foot wrong. He's a sweetie and I know he's thought this all through for a long time.

HelenaDove · 28/06/2019 01:23

oh i posted a thread on this without spotting this one.

CondeNasty · 28/06/2019 06:25

There does seem to be a strange phenomenon, that I have only seen in men, where they genuinely think that they are clean and tidy people so if the house is not clean and tidy it is someone else's fault. The fact that they do fuck all does not come into it. My DH and BIL used to share a place and BIL was always moaning about how untidy DH was. He never seemed to notice that his own room was the muckiest in the place. When he moved into his own place it was a real shock to him to the extent that his mental health ultimately took a hit.

I've seen enough dick men who if they not only put the bins out but also have to put their own mug in the dishwasher, proclaim they do everything around here.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 28/06/2019 08:23

There does seem to be a strange phenomenon, that I have only seen in men, where they genuinely think that they are clean and tidy people

The most obsessively clean and tidy people I've known have all been men, ex services. It must teach them to be clean and tidy.
In most cases it has caused problems with their less tidy wives.

MadImFurious · 30/06/2019 10:54

The most obsessively clean and tidy people I've known have all been men, ex services. It must teach them to be clean and tidy.

I think it's because they have to know exactly where everything is, and that it's in good working order. I used to know an ex service man who was sort of like this, but in a weirdly specific way. So eg. going camping all his stuff would be neatly packed, no rooting round to find stuff, all very efficient. In the home, he would line up washing up to drain in neat rows, that sort of thing. Yet stuff like vacuuming or just noticing stuff was messy (outside of specific areas) seemed to elude him.

It's always struck me as one of those areas where the daily, useful, general stuff is mostly done by women whilst the specific, high-level stuff of the same activity is a man's domain. Like cooking - women will be cooking for a family, watching a budget, tidying up as they go, considering the context of use by dates and leftovers and the time it takes to cook... Men will be top chefs and cook a (difficult to source ingredients, expensive and time comsuming) masterpiece, whilst someone else cleans the kitchen after them...

HelenaDove · 01/07/2019 01:18

@ZebrasAreBras Wait till the revenge porn law gets used against women.

Five years ago a couple were suspicious about the behaviour of a workman while they were not at home. So they left a camera running and it caught him having a wank in their living room. Now yes i get that this is rather specific but if a woman living alone was suspicious and did the same thing and then e mailed it to the persons employer would that be classed as sharing revenge porn.

Guavaf1sh · 03/07/2019 07:55

There isn’t enough information here and in the absence of that as others have said the best thing is to believe the victim rather than blame the victim.

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