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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Would Margaret Thatcher be a TERF?

48 replies

DJLippy · 26/06/2019 19:08

If Margaret Thatcher was alive and still running the country would she oppose the trans rights juggernaut?

I mean many have pointed out that gender identity ideology is end stage neo-liberalism. The ultimate expression of an individualist ideology that totally separates the individual from society and broader social connections. Maybe she'd be all for it.

Then again she was a bit no non sense wasn't she?

What do we reckon women. WWMTD?

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AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 19:22

She wasn’t a radical feminist so, irrespective of her opinion on transgenderism, no, not a ‘TERF’.

Moominfan · 26/06/2019 19:23

I can't see her even acknowledging it

dancingcamper · 26/06/2019 19:31

I can't imagine her giving such nonsense the time of day.

DpWm · 26/06/2019 20:51

She'd just think "Terfs" were overreacting to something (feminism/gender ideology) that would never affect her or even cross her mind. She'd go along with the "tiny minority" and "vulnerable" hyperbole.
Today, she'd be too horrified by Brexit to think about anything else anyway.

Would she think TWAW? No. But she wouldn't care less if others did.

AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 20:56

She'd go along with the "tiny minority" and "vulnerable" hyperbole.

Yes, she was famous for giving into appeals to her compassion.

AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 21:01

I think Thatcher would have agreed with Stonewall that trans falls under the LGB banner.

She wouldn’t have accepted transwomen are women, but she would have thought they were gay, and treated them consistent with the way she treated other gay people.

She’d have banned the promotion of trans ideology in schools but for precisely the wrong reasons.

DpWm · 26/06/2019 21:14

she was famous for giving into appeals to her compassion

She would have gone along with the hyperbole as a convenient way to dismiss women's concerns. No compassion involved. It simply wouldn't have affected her in any way.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/06/2019 21:19

She was a chemist - a woman who studied science. She would have told them to bugger off.

Pota2 · 26/06/2019 21:29

Who cares what she would have thought? She was hardly a feminist or anyone who even gave much of a shit about women. She would probably have loathed trans people as well as lesbians and gay men.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/06/2019 21:54

Isn’t her daughter gay?

Teacakeandalatte · 26/06/2019 21:57

She was famously not for turning.

AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 22:02

She would have gone along with the hyperbole as a convenient way to dismiss women's concerns.

That’s as likely as Trump aligning himself with TRAs. Just because you oppose two things doesn’t make them on the same side.

ianjordan · 26/06/2019 22:04

No, Margaret Thatcher was not a feminist.

Pota2 · 26/06/2019 22:11

No, her daughter is not gay as far as I am aware.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/06/2019 22:13

You’re right! She isn’t gay - I must have been thinking of someone else.

RubyViolet · 26/06/2019 22:27

She was not a feminist, l actually don’t think she cared about women or anyone but herself.

Goosefoot · 26/06/2019 22:29

I can't see her taking it seriously, but that is what I expect of almost any woman of her generation.

Ereshkigal · 26/06/2019 23:33

Whatever else I think about her, she'd have recognised this for the nonsense it is.

AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 23:40

Thatcherism was about radical right-wing economics that was anything but conservative but very conservative about ‘traditional’ family values, just as Reaganism was.

There was a contradiction between their anything-goes economic theories and their belief in the innate ‘rightness’ of heterosexuality and monogamy.

OccasionalKite · 26/06/2019 23:45

This thread led me to googling, and I found this article, which is quite interesting:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-women

The Guardian, 09 April 2013, by Jenni Murray, "What did Margaret Thatcher do for women?"

AlunWynsKnee · 26/06/2019 23:47

Thatcher would have been opposed to the GRA in its original form let alone self id. But not from any safeguarding viewpoint, just a reactionary one. And she was no feminist.

andyoldlabour · 26/06/2019 23:56

Margerate Thatcher was a very nasty bloke in a dress, she was apalling.
She tried to upstage every bloke PM in being warmongering, supporting dictators,

birdsdestiny · 26/06/2019 23:59

Margaret Thatcher was a woman. Biology exists even when you don't agree with people.

OccasionalKite · 27/06/2019 00:01

Margaret Thatcher was certainly no feminist. She certainly pulled up the ladder behind her, excluding other women. I seem to recollect that she appointed 1 - one! - woman as a cabinet minister, during her time as PM? I may be wrong on this, so feel free to correct me on the issue of female ministers during Margaret Thatcher's tenure.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 27/06/2019 08:34

She was a scientist and wouldn’t have entertained this bollocks for 2 minutes. Actually I wonder if the TRAs would have labelled her a trans man as she wasn’t simpering, dressed in frills or felt any need to be nice.

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