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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GRA discussion yesterday in parliament

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InsulatedCup · 25/06/2019 18:38

Noticed this from a labour MP (not mine), Lilian Greenwood:

I was delighted to chair a really thought-provoking discussion about the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) in Parliament yesterday.

I was grateful to have the chance to listen to Dr Katharine Jenkins from University of Nottingham present her research on how the GRA should be updated.

Many thanks to Dr Nina Burrowes from The Consent Collective, Mridul Wadhwa from YWCA Scotland - The Young Women's Movement, Dr Ruth Pearce from University of Leeds, and the audience for their excellent contributions.

Does anyone know the contributors, and if so would it have been a balanced discussion?

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cwg1 · 25/06/2019 20:29

Nope - I make panel 50% male. Midrul Whadwa and Ruth Pearce. MP was chairing.

AniseDanehill · 25/06/2019 20:44

Lilian Greenwood closed the East Midlands Labour Party Regional Women’s Conference in 2018 with the declaration 'TWAW'

butteryellow · 25/06/2019 21:00

Pearce works with Sally Hines at Leeds. Is researching trans pregnancy

Is this pregnancy in males - ie. uterus implants (surprised this is considered ethical), or pregnancy in females (ie unremarkable, so who is funding and why)? Or is it pregnancy in females on testosterone (can't be - that wouldn't get ethical approval surely?)

SunsetBeetch · 25/06/2019 21:02

Well, Labour can stay fucked off.

AnyOldPrion · 25/06/2019 21:05

Oh dear. Maybe the panel forgot to tell Ms Greenwood that all trans lobbying must be carried out under a veil of secrecy. She’s letting the side down with her casual virtue signalling.

Pota2 · 25/06/2019 21:14

I think the project looks at trans men who are pregnant, ie biological females. I also think they got about a million pounds for it. Actual feminists rarely or never get big grants like that.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2019 21:16

Professor Hines and co are researching into pregnancy in biological females who identify as males, ie trans men. Hines is a sociologist so it's not a medical/biological study.

As for the testosterone, if it's a natural pregnancy, not much anybody can do to stop it, I suppose. Longer term we will see if babies born to trans men on cross hormones suffer any health effects. I hope not.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 21:33

What a bloody travesty. I hope they've been listening to the goings-on in Scotland.

Who wants to send Lil Greenwood a copy of Invisible Women?

bettybeans · 26/06/2019 00:01

Looks like all the MPs should now have one...

GRA discussion yesterday in parliament
ZebrasAreBras · 26/06/2019 00:03

Nice! I hope she reads it!

SunsetBeetch · 26/06/2019 06:53

Brilliant! No wonder the TRAs are trying to smear Caroline.

JackyHolyoake · 26/06/2019 07:09

Greenwood is MP for Nottingham South which I think is the constituency in which Peto lives.

FreeFreesia · 26/06/2019 09:30

I'm going to take the teensiest bit of comfort that someone there highlighted the need for dialogue. twitter.com/UoN_Institute/status/1143481623469600768

Birdsfoottrefoil · 26/06/2019 09:45

Who sits on the grant funding boards that give so much money to Sally Hine? Why are they funding such biased research?

Ereshkigal · 26/06/2019 09:48

"it was great to have an all-woman panel in a traditionally male environment".

Two out of five panellists biologically male, including the one who tweeted the above sentence.

Yeah, they're well aware of that. It's deliberately Orwellian.

Pota2 · 26/06/2019 11:45

I don’t know why research like that seems so attractive to the funding bodies but that Future of Legal Gender project got 700k and they claim that the state ‘assigns gender’ by recording bio sex and that we can overcome gender inequality by not recording sex. The only thing I can think is that they have all spent their lives living in a privileged bubble in academia, where they have not witnessed sex discrimination in its true form (because it does not exist there to the extent that it does elsewhere). So they see no problem with ‘quirky’ solutions like not recording sex and suggesting people should ‘choose’ their ‘legal gender’ at age 18 because it’s not real life, it’s just a game to them.

DickKerrLadies · 26/06/2019 12:12

Yeah, they're well aware of that. It's deliberately Orwellian.

It's goady fuckery.

Ereshkigal · 27/06/2019 11:15

Indeed.

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