Janice Turner on porn in Times today

[ErrolTheDragon]

Porn is warping the minds of a generation

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/porn-is-warping-the-minds-of-a-generation-hcdbqhmq8?shareToken=0fe84dc96855fe570a78bec471c34729

It's mostly discussing 'age verification' but the final part is perhaps particularly relevant here. How do we get girls and young women with their wish to be seen as cool, liberal and 'woke' to realise porn is neither feminist nor positive sex?

Thanks for sharetoken OP.

She gets a lot into her word count there.

Well done, Janice.

Comments are disheartening though.

It's an excellent piece. Comments on porn topics tend to make for depressing reading, but don't forget that they are not always from ordinary readers. There's a lot of astroturfing going on around this topic.

I’m glad she discusses the recent deaths of young women too, it’s not harmless fun. And it’s not cool.

Thanks Errol and thank you to Janice Turner as always.

I'm utterly fed up of and enraged by porn and it's normalisation, and its ubiquity thanks to the internet. It just makes me feel like it's an impossible mountain to climb now. We're stuck with it and its vile effects forever.

I detest the way that that sick feeling of shock and betrayal women feel when they find their partners using it is totally invalidated by society, because just looking at other women's naked bodies is fine dontcha know, not cheating at all. Your prudish feelings are your problem, woman. I mean who set that rule?

About the only good thing I can say about the gender debate is that it got me in contact with second-wave feminists. I'd been surrounded by 'porn is liberating' third-wavers and felt like I was losing my mind.

Comments are disheartening though.

Yep.

I don't know how we deal with this though

interesting comments re Netflix - I thought that had been dealt with? If it has, then surely porn sites could do the same?

I think it would be great if people had to buy a porn pass!

I'm wondering - perhaps just hoping - if the next generation will have some sort of backlash against all this.

The comments are vile.

Oh christ the comments....

interfering moral busy bodies

I am assuming this man's comment was referring to women. Women who care about the horrible effects porn is having on our children.

The comments are vile. You would almost believe that some of those commenting are possibly viewing the 70’s version of porn. You know the “situational” type with a service provider “innocently” encountering “horny” scantily clad females, accompanied by the bow chicka wow wow soundtrack. That’s been my only exposure to porn - via randy boyfriends in my teens, trying to hope I’d be excited. Never ended well as a student of drama I would be doubled over in hysterics, laughing at the appalling acting.
I do acknowledge that it is far more serious and violent now. Not that I’ve seen but I do believe the comments and numerous violence attributed to it. I mean when a book like 50 Shades is being marketed to mums. Well you do have to ask. Hands up I’ve only read about two chapters of the trilogy. It was quite popular with the school mums. What was interesting was the husbands reaction to their wives reading it. Whether that was down to a need to spice up a dull sex life or the chance to bring some bdsm into the bedroom I can’t say. What I will say was (the little I read was rubbish) the Mills & Boon I read at 12 had better dialogue/storytelling.
I should have listened to a friend who said “you’re an avid reader, you’ll hate this.”
Now obviously I’m not saying 50 shades is violent porn, but I do think that it is a very mild example of an attempt to normalise it into public acceptance. Think about it I was basically marketed to bored mothers and housewives. The usual demographic that would be anti porn.