Guardian article celebrates Pride without mentioning gays or lesbians

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www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/jun/20/american-family-trans-gender-queer-nonbinary

Just that really. Where do you even start?

Actually no, not groundbreaking, but uncommon.

jennymara I agree with you. The concept of choosing friends to replace a family group is uncommon. I don't know why you are getting such contrarian responses.

Uncommon is not the same as groundbreaking

Eaudear I am well aware of that, which is why I said no actually not groundbreaking.

Lass Thanks. When I was in my twenties there were plenty of people around saying their family are their friends. Now in my mid 50s it is rare. I do have a few friends who are family. We have left in wills any money we have to each other, we support each other. We don't always see each other all the time, but it is more than just friends. But most people have turned back to their blood families or their nuclear families and focus on them.

Sorry should clarify, I have left money in my will to partner, kids and friends who I see as family.

Absolutely nothing new here big yawn
Armistead Maupin, Tales of the City springs to mind.

Read it.

What a load of sanctimonious, self-indulgent bilge.

I will never again click on a Guardian link. Based on this thread, I'm dodging a bullet.

Watch Queer as Folk where one of the two main gay characters complains about straight people coming to the gay village to get their thrills. There is nothing new here, except the terminology and that a national newspaper is covering it as a real thing. At one time if The Guardian had mentioned it at all, it would have been in a column written by a gay columnist complaining about it.

The Guardian is off its rocker.

“For me, if it’s not sparking joy, then leave it.”
And there, in one sentence, is the perfect expression of the sickness of these people. It’s all about me, and what interests me, and what makes me feel good. I’ll tell my kids to change what they call me so I can feel comfortable.
Just. Fuck. Off. And leave having kids to people who understand it’s not all about them.

"For me, if it's not sparking joy, then leave it."

I shouldn't laugh, but....
It's like Marie Kondo meets 50 shades.

I'll get my coat.

Oddly, the Guardian AU yesterday ran this piece WITH COMMENTS! Not sure how that slopped through. Article is rah-rah self ID, GC comments in response allowed to stand.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/20/our-gender-is-not-for-others-to-decide-a-bill-for-trans-people-to-self-identify-is-a-good-start

DanaPhoenix

It's like Marie Kondo meets 50 shades.

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

Watch Queer as Folk where one of the two main gay characters complains about straight people coming to the gay village to get their thrills. There is nothing new here, except the terminology and that a national newspaper is covering it as a real thing. At one time if The Guardian had mentioned it at all, it would have been in a column written by a gay columnist complaining about it.

Yes, straight visitors to Canal Street used to be dismissed as ‘tourists’. Now they are ‘queerer’ than boring old homosexuals.

If people who are part of your nominal family are not making you happy, and they’re complicating your life, and bringing you anxiety and stress and sadness, drop them.

Spoken like someone who has not yet experienced parenting a teenager.

Oh I dunno, I think Marie would balk at 50 shades.
She mightened say it aloud, but I reckon she'd quietly advise to thank 45 for their service and fold the other 5 neatly away.

If people who are part of your nominal family are not making you happy, and they’re complicating your life, and bringing you anxiety and stress and sadness, drop them.

Spoken like someone who has not yet experienced parenting a teenager.

Or had an aging parent who needs care or grieving after bereavement. Or a family member with special needs or longterm illness. Or myriad other family members who’ve needed support through difficult times.

Nope. Drop them all, fuck their joy-sucking negativity and adopt only enabling, validating, uplifting, all-singing-all-dancing-all-the-fucking-time people as family. Thing is it’s a precarious path to tread because if your new ‘family’ operates on the same principles you’re going to be shit out of luck come the time you need so much as a shoulder to cry on.

Yes drop your normal family and be part of the ‘glitter family’ as I’ve seen it called. It’s grooming pure and simple.

The statement way overstates the case. But yes sometimes going NC is the best thing to do.