Alice Roberts - what the hell?

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I can’t tell you how utterly disappointed I feel by her comments about Sex and reproduction not being binary. She knows the truth, what the hell is she doing? I’m even more upset by her than by Sarah Champion, she’s a Scientist ffs.

"... seems to have come about only since she took on the Professorial Chair with the University of Birmingham. I find that interesting."
Yes, that is interesting MarieIVanArkleStinks.

I'd also be interested to know just what a "Professor for the Public Engagement in Science" actually does.(Apart from disengage from science herself.)

Woke creationism

I always liked her and thought she was a good presenter that explained science in an engaging and understanding way.

But her twitter posts are mind boggling for any proper scientist.
She's basically saying A=B so therefore C=D.
Great science there!

Do hybrids happen in nature or just as a result of human meddling?

To add, all the hybrids I know of are either domesticated animals (mules, hinnys, domestic cats and dogs) or animals that dont exist in the same environment (ligers, tigons, zeedonks).

Would these animals naturally get it on if living together, or is it a forced/artificial insemination?

There are usually reasons why species that could don't interbreed - lack of mutual mating behaviour, living on islands etc. Humans interfere with this both intentionally and unintentionally.

Mallards, however . But then, to be fair, a lot of the other ducks in the pond were put there by humans.

From this discussion I will deduce that Transgenderers are very similar to Clownfish.

Yep, I'll go with that.
TWACF

I posted on another thread that intelligence and critical thinking skills are two different things, and that people who are intelligent are actually rather vulnerable to believing they don't need to work on their thinking skills. Here's a case in point.

How do you successfully engage people in science if you're telling them men can be women?

Professor of Public Enragement more like.

How do you successfully engage people in science if you're telling them men can be women?

More like: How do you successfully engage people in science if you're telling them men can be women, and then blocking them when they ask how?

Hiya, sorry to butt in but speciation via hybridization is fairly common in both plants and animals. However I fail to see what it has to do with changing sex. Some organisms can, humans are not one of them.

Also who the fuck is teaching "sex is a spectrum?" Surely not biology departments at real universities? Mine certainly did not. My uni did briefly cover DSDs and chromosomal disorders in first year. I clearly went at the right time, as there was only one question about sexed brains in one lecture.

There is also this BBC prog where one presenter argued for brain-sex, and the other insisted it was all nonsense.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04knbny

@MichealConraoi is on it

I used to rate Prof Roberts, have a number of her books, have been to talks and lectures, loved her TV programmes. Very disappointed in her, now.

So if you chop a human in half, can they become two new people?
Because worms?

I believe Clownfish have repeatedly asked not to be dragged into the debate, Alice.

When I look back on my life, I particularly enjoyed that bit as a teenager where I built a cocoon around transformed into a mushed up puddle of Beyond, before emerging as my beautiful adult self

*and transformed
Ffs

😂😂😂

Tocopherol, nothing really. Alice Roberts was using the 'but Clownfish' reasoning and also mentioned hybrids. It just sparked a strand of conversation about them.

I'm a scientist.
There are more than two sexes. There are people who have two XX chromosomes and a Y.
There are humans with three XXX

There are humans with extra chromosome material in their cells - (trisomy) down syndrome people for example.

She's 100% right... sex is not binary.

I still favour separate women's facilities and abhor the erosion of any gender's rights in favour of anothers'.

I would like to see trans, and easy access disabled toilets for example, as well as those for men and women.

Ideally every swimming pool, and public toilet would have a family room / multisex change rooms, and toddler toilets as well.

Banging on about how you have no respect for a scientist as she has burst your binary bubble argument for women only facilities is really pathetic, and shows your ignorance of what science is all about.

Science has a very clear understanding about how genes work, and how they're not expressed the same even within the same organism - there are many truncations and mutations, and epigenetic effects can cause genes to make proteins which in other circs wouldn't be made. For example you can have many different types of genes within an organism... chimerism for example, or non human bacterial genes and RNA expressed - mitochondria are an example of this. That's before we get into the millions of non human cells in the gut, and how they influence behaviour.

Just because you want all women toilets to remain all women, (which I agree with) does not mean you can pick and choose your own facts to support that wish.

Science is factually based, and above opinions!
Alice Roberts has my 100% support a a scientist.

If you can't get your head around that we live in a soup of genetic material then I suggest you google genetics of the human organism and see for yourself how right she is.

The sad reality of most people is that they gave up science in school and went to study something farcical in college like post modernist media studies which does nothing at all for the individual, the world, or society.

I applaud her worthy attempts to educate non-scientists to the facts of life.

Might be time to remind people of the different types of gametes again.

What sex are XXX and XXY people?

Presumably trans people dont have XX or XY chromosomes and would instead have a different combination?

Also, can any of these many sexes along the spectrum change from one to another? Asking for a friend with a media degree.

On Facebook I saw someone post a gotcha to the terves that was basically about sponges having lots of sexes.

I was totally convinced and saw the error of my ways immediately

So what other gametes are there?

And no need for self-id. A straight forward test of genes would clear it up.