Years and Years - some light relief

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Not only is it a fantastic TV series, it's also addressing the trans kids issue in an excellent way - one of Rosie's sons likes wearing dresses and pigtails, but it's made VERY clear that he's a boy: "your brother", "good boy" etc etc. Really nice to find gender non-conformity being addressed in a sensible way.

Oooh thank you HelenaDove! Not something I'd come across before.

I remember The Mad Death though.

Warning ......it will give you chills because there are bits that have come to pass.

I think Years and Years was about how if we dont pay attention and act we end up with idiots like Trump or Boris Johnson or worse a Putin or a Erdoğan. Turning away from what is too difficult and / or not acting means it becomes easier for potentil dictators to get voted in.

So Gran / Muriel's speech has nothing to do with trans anything. It is about us being greedy consumers who dont stop to think how a t-shirt can only be a £1 and / or what happens when you start othering others, such as refugees. I haven't checked is this is the whole speech but found a link here. (But the cynic in me thinks however many people might have found it powerful they wont change as we now exist to be consumers.) twitter.com/BBCOne/status/1141075861791096832

Also like the fact that trans genderism just didn't really feature as though it were a past glich and the focus was on trans humanism. Will it disconnect us from being human or enhance it.

Thought it was good that it was primarily the women who not only had the moral compass in the midst of everyone just being pushed into a pressured lifestyle, and had the courage to try and change it.

I suspect that as things are today most people would just shrug and say what can you do.

Thanks BeansandRice, I haven’t read the book yet, but since you’ve ruined it for me, I needn’t bother now!

Ach! So sorry @S1naidSucks The book was published in 1985 - over 30 years ago, so I assumed anyone interested in it would have read it by now ....

I read it when it was first published, and rest assured, I'm most likely to be wrong about the ending. My point is, that the television adaptation doesn't do the frame narrative that Margaret Attwood uses. And that the violence against women in the television adaptation is far more graphic than the novel.

But it's not how a novel finishes - it's how it gets there.

it will give you chills because there are bits that have come to pass

When Ms Atwood first published The Handmaid's Tale people started to talk about "science fiction" and "future fiction" - Attwood said that there was nothing in the book that hadn't happened somewhere.

And she wrote the book over 30 years ago ....

Ach! So sorry @S1naidSucks The book was published in 1985 - over 30 years ago

I’m a slow reader. 😁

@BeansandRice i was talking about 1990 but yes i remember watching a prog about Margaret Attwood and she said she didnt put anything in her book that hadnt happened.

Will give one spoiler

In the first episode of 1990 there is a disability fit for work assessment.

God that mad politician at the end - anyone else getting Dr haddock vibes?