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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Girls are “not real.” Human rights complaint.

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youkiddingme · 18/06/2019 16:46

www.thepostmillennial.com/ontario-family-files-human-rights-complaint-after-six-year-old-girl-upset-by-gender-theory-in-school/amp/

According to N’s feedback to her mother, JB told the children that “there is no such thing as girls and boys,” and “girls are not real and boys are not real.” - what are children supposed to make of that?

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Goosefoot · 18/06/2019 16:56

It's very odd that being a transboy could be real, but not a boy-boy.

What struck me about the whole thing is how developmentally inappropriate it was for children that age. I find myself wondering how people who deal with children think their kids are understanding these ideas, because to me it's pretty obvious that they aren't, and probably couldn't. They also seem to have odd views i many cases on gender stereotyping, talking to kids about things like racism, often expecting them to conceptualise at far too high a level.

youkiddingme · 18/06/2019 16:57

often expecting them to conceptualise at far too high a level. - totally this.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/06/2019 19:23

At this point, feeling stonewalled at every step of the hierarchical ladder from bottom to top, the Buffones made the decision to enrol N at another school Is that a snide comment? My bold Grin

sueseyphone · 18/06/2019 20:12

For goodness sake.
At least her parents fought back and taught her about biological reality.
Imagine if her parents thought the same as the teacher, and I imagine some parents of the class do.
We are going to have a lot of confused non-boy non-girl little people, and sooner or later they will feel the effects of their biological reality whether they believe in it or not.

FannyCann · 18/06/2019 20:16

I really hope they win the case. It has big implications if they do.

BryanAdamsLeftAnkle · 18/06/2019 20:20

Link?

sueseyphone · 18/06/2019 20:38

Although it seems like the case is based on the little girls right to her gender identity as a girl rather than the biological reality that she is a girl.
So even if they win, seems possible that the outcome could be a precedent that as long as you teach there are boy and girls you can also teach that is had has nothing to do with biological sex differences

origamiunicorn · 18/06/2019 20:41

If girls and boys aren't real, neither are transboys or transgirls.

Evenquieterlife33 · 18/06/2019 20:49

The preschool attached to our school had the following options for parents of two year olds joining this year;
Sex:
Male
Female
Rather not say.
Rather not fucking say. At 2. I cannot fucking fathom how any child going into preschool at that age would have any notion of sex or the idea that anybody would “rather not say” On behalf of their child
What their actual sex is, is abhorrent.

TurboTeddy · 18/06/2019 21:12

Evenquieterlife33 I agree with your point about "rather not say", it's obviously nonsense for a child of 2.

However I was pleasantly surprised to see they were asking sex not gender.

Evenquieterlife33 · 18/06/2019 22:04

Yes indeed. It was pointed out to me by a mum there she thought the third option was hilarious. Scared the shit out of me. I’ve been on sex not gender look out ever since and I’ve had to ask them to correct sex ed that asked children if two partners have to be the same gender when introducing same sex relationships discussion to the kids.

AlwaysComingHome · 18/06/2019 23:26

However I was pleasantly surprised to see they were asking sex not gender.

Given that, ‘prefer not to say’ is even more stupid. I’d happily answer ‘prefer not to say’ to gender.

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