Is it just me who thinks the world has gone stark raving mad today?

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The state of this with the accompanying story.

www.itv.com/news/central/2019-06-12/blunt-utensils-replace-kitchen-knives-to-help-save-lives/
Blunt utensils replace kitchen knives to save lives

Nottinghamshire Police is piloting a scheme where victims of domestic violence will have their kitchen knives replaced with blunt utensils, to help stop partners attacking them in their own home.

Around a hundred "no-point" knives will be given to victims who have either been threatened or attacked with a knife.

It comes as police say they're concerned about the high numbers of knife-related incidents in the home. They say the new scheme could help save lives.

In what fuck witted brainstorming session does some come up with the bright idea that if you only keep plastic sporks in the drawer it will protect you from domestic violence?

Obviously it'll stop em beating the shit out of you or stop them nipping to Tesco to buy a knife you can do more than cut soft tomatoes with.

Just words.

It's the weather. It has to be the weather.

Bearing in mind that strangulation is one of the most common forms of DV, this is a loads of bollocks and seems to just be an acceptance that actually we can't do anything about men being violent.

Some bizarre distorted thinking went on to suggest this as a practical strategy.

About 10 years ago I worked with someone who was designing these knives - the intention was to roll them out as the new standard shape across all markets, to reduce knife crime. A lot of knife crime is opportunistic, so the theory went that if you pick up the nearest knife and it happens to have a rounded end, your victim would be better off.
Problem is, people like pointy knives. No one wants to buy a safety knife.

I'll have a couple of those. though for autistic ds and possibly dyspraxic dd.

for dv, getting rid of the perpatrator would be better though. I think the blunt knives may be a way of making the victims see through the fog and consider getting rid earlier. took me ages with nurse, Gp and counsellor and police saying stuff before it penetrated.

I can confirm though that blunt instuments launched at speed can still cut quite severely. thank God for a thick skull

there was something on the radio recently about bringing in blunt knives to make stabbings harder to do/less severe.

Women experiencing DV have enough sorrows in their lives already without making everyday activities harder and more frustrating for them.

Where can I sign up for the bus to Badley Fuckitt?

What are they going to do to men's hands though - cut off their fingers so they can't strangle women?

yes the world has gone almost entirely mad

I've just binge watched Good Omens on Amazon.

I'm now thinking this was not a good week to do so.

hoodathunkit your post actually made me let out a little sob. It's so outrageous and depressing.

I can confirm though that blunt instuments launched at speed can still cut quite severely. thank God for a thick skull

I am so sorry you endured this :(

I seem to spend my days picking my jaw up from the floor. Wtaf!!

Blunt knives can be a hazard in the kitchen. DM had a fear of sharp knives so never sharpened hers, as a result she cut herself pretty much every time she tried to slice a tomato.

DD had "knife training" while working in a kitchen shop - she was told to always hand the knife to the woman in the couple, as if you handed it to the man, more often than not, he'd "jokingly" put the knife to her neck. Both she and I were gobsmacked that 50% of men accompanying their female partner to a kitchen shop on a Saturday afternoon to buy a set of knives would think that was an OK thing to do, even funny.

"I've heard A&E doctors calling for knives with points to be banned or reduced in number to help reduce knife crime deaths. Apparently it's much harder to kill somebody with a rounded end knife, like a bread knife, than a pointed knife. Anything that helps imo."

I can see the use of bringing in knives which are sharp but not pointy at a general level - after all, who slices a tomato with the pointy bit on the end - but giving them specifically to DV victims is ludicrous and reflects a total failure to engage with the situation in which they're living.

irene put is so much better than me.

It won’t stop anyone determined enough

They have hands don’t they?

And a blunt round end knife can still kill

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-48609164
Nottinghamshire Police offers abuse victims blunt knives

The BBC are covering it from another angle today.

"What do they think will happen when the perpetrator finds the knives and asks what happened to the normal ones?" said Dr Jessica Eaton, a specialist in interpersonal abuse.

"It undermines the perpetrator from a psychological point of view.

"It's a huge red flag to them: 'Who did you tell?' It's going to cause an argument. [The police have] not thought that through."

and

Supt Matt McFarlane, the force's new knife crime strategy manager, said some of the critics had "got the whole idea wrong".

"It's a very small trial, and it will always be part of a much wider range of measures that we are doing to safeguard and protect that victim," he said.

"We can debate something theoretically or from a psychological perspective all day long. Sometimes you need to try something and see if it works or not."

The force has bought 100 knives and these have already been offered to victims, but the force has not yet "assessed how many have taken them up".

"We will assess the number that have been given at the end of the year and assess if we continue," said Supt McFarlane.

How do you measure the success or failure of this?

Less stabbings for our stats! Fab. Success. Shame about the strangulations going up.

Or what if you end up with more dead because psychologically its a fucking stupid idea? How do you justify the trial then?

I have no words for this fucking nonsense.

Every day another new low that makes me feel the world has got madder and madder.
The picture that sprang into my mind was a very angry man shouting at his wife, 'call these fucking chips; what the hell did you cut these with you useless...' Well you get the picture.

It is so fucking unbeliveable that so many men think this will reduce harm to women in some way, rather than this just escalate things.

I just really want this all to stop now.

When will women ever actually be seen as deserving of some actual respect?

It's more insanity coming to the fore every hour of every fucking day.

Maybe supply the victims with guns. Then they'd be able to defend themselves properly.

High voltage electric shock collars around the necks of the perpetrators of domestic violence, and all other members of the household kitted out with wrist straps with a button to triggered the shock collar if needed in response to a serious threat?

It's an idea I came up with after realising how many violent men ignore exclusion orders. In the original idea the shock dispensing buttons were only active when the collar came within 100 metres of the button.

Now that we know the police are running a trail of offering victims of domestic violence a set of blunt knives I reckon they should also set up a trail offering victims the option of countering a violent attack with an electric shock that would leave the aggressor twitching on the floor in a puddle of his own urine. Both trials to run for a year and then afterwards the results could be assessed to see which had been most effective at reducing the number of trips to A&E by families effected by domestic violence.

Of course there's a teensy tiny risk that some family members might be bearing a grudge, and would press the button in response to a threatening look, and they might even pretend later that they hadn't done it, and collude with the other family members to gaslight the previously violent bully when he tries to get sympathy from outsiders. That would be very sad. Almost, but not quite as sad as all those stories in the papers about the quiet, devoted family men who are inexplicably driven to annihilate their entire family.

This country is going down the pan. The shit pan.

Man threatens woman with a knife

1990 solution - remove the man, keep the knife

2019 solution - remove the knife, keep the man

Those evil sharp knives have been manipulating innocent men for centuries, problem solved

High voltage electric shock collars around the necks of the perpetrators of domestic violence, and all other members of the household kitted out with wrist straps with a button to triggered the shock collar if needed in response to a serious threat?

I love this.