inspiralcarpet
Thanks for your post
I am pushed for time today and just wanted you to know that I am not ignoring you
You raise a lot of issues in your post that will take me some time to reply to, however I look forward to sharing thoughts and experiences with you and see this as an opportunity to expose serious abuses against vulnerable people.
For the record I think that dissociation is an interesting phenomena linked to trauma and I know it is a real thing.
My problem lies with multiple personality disorder / dissociative identity disorder, a problematic and highly controversial diagnosis linked to the satanic panic.
When MPD was exposed as an iatrogenic condition used to commit insurance fraud on a massive scale, the charlatans promoting rebranded it as DID. At one level this is all about money, but I think there is more to it than that.
DID has received a lot of exposure as a fraudulent / iatrogenic condition and so a range of new dissociative disorders has been created to keep the revenue streams flowing.
The falsely accused families and alienated, brainwashed victims of the cruel pseudo-therapies are just collateral damage in these disgusting frauds.
I am extremely angry about multiple abuses against innocent people by disgusting charlatans and have, for some years, also been researching the connections between the transgender identity promoting quacks and the MPD/DID promoting quacks.
The connections and resonating themes are absolutely fascinating and I think should be exposed.
I have also been researching connections between MPD/DID/SRA promoting therapists and abusive sex cults.
I can understand why some feminists are going to be upset about this.
There is a long and horrible history of some elements within feminism promoting MPD/DID/SRA hoaxes.
There is also a long history of some feminists promoting abusive sex cults, very often from a misguided belief that they are empowering women.
Exploring the links and connections between abusive therapists who use coercive control to alienate vulnerable people (usually women) from their families and then to exploit them in horrific ways and sex cults that use the same modus operandi to alienate women and girls from their families and exploit them in systems of prostitution and pornography is going to create some cognitive dissonance but I find it very difficult to just do and say nothing while vulnerable people are abused.
You generally come across to me as someone who is disparaging of the counselling/psychotherapy professions and if it's your agenda to spread that message then that's you're right.
I believe that psychotherapy can be extremely helpful for some people. I know many people who have benefitted from good psychotherapy and I know that there are good therapists out there. I was once a passionate advocate for psychotherapy.
I reserve my criticism for psychotherapists who use quackery to abuse vulnerable people.
I am especially concerned about so called "body psychotherapists". There is a significant category crossover between body psychotherapists and abusive tantric sex cults that exploit vulnerable women (and sometimes men) in systems of prostitution and other sex work. Both body psychotherapists and cults claim that memories are trapped in the body at a cellular level and can be liberated via massage (usually including genital / anal massage).
This is a disgusting abuse of vulnerable people. Obviously.
Many of the quacks promoting MPD/DID either are body therapists or are friends and associates with such persons and endorse each other online and in real life. I can prove this. One senior promoter of MPD/DID/SRA is actually married to a neo-tantra teacher who works for a controversial "school of tantra" currently facing multiple allegations of rape and sexual assault.
But as someone who suffered with a disocciative disorder and later remembered abuse - which was then corroborated by both witness accounts and my social services records I find your stance on what you declare to be 'false memories' at odds with a feminist board.
I cannot comment on what did or did not happen to you, however we live in interesting times and it is common for the police and the social services to be trained in all kinds of deluded illogical weirdness and be awarded CPD credits for their time.
My medical records, at least the parts written by well meaning but misinformed professionals, and other written by quacks and charlatans, contain all kinds of errors and false information.
One of the most terrible aspects of the activities of the quacks and charlatans is that their victims are sometimes people who suffered real violations and abuses.
I would never say that someone has never been abused, however when people make claims of fantastical events involving mass sacrifice of babies, cannibalism, women used as "breeders" for satanic cults, etc. I struggle to believe that this is true. The main reason for my incredulity is that I have 1st hand experience of knowing women who have recovered false memories of incest and SRA from quack therapists. These women went on to genuinely believe that their families are paedophiles and satanists because of being on the receiving end of abusive therapy How can this be OK with anyone?
In fact it seems to play right into a patriarchal narrative that females must be mad and imagining false abuse rather than that men have actually abused them.
I would argue that many of these quacks and charlatans are men and that the MPD/DID diagnosis is one that infantilises women and thus ultimately plays into the patriarchy. This becomes especially evident when one examines the links to these quacks and cults involving paedophiles and sexual predators.
Also quite evident are links between some false memory cults, including some psychotherapy cults, and conspiracies to undermine women's reproductive rights.
These are subjects that I am very much looking forward to sharing with you, as I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Whatever you think of individual therapists (and I agree there are some bad ones around) you offend me regularly with your dismissal of dissociative disorders which are a genuinely recognised mental health condition recognised in DSMV.
You are correct in pointing out that DID and other dissociative disorders are recognised in the DSM-V (the American diagnostic manual). You would also be correct if you pointed out that police, social workers and mental health professionals the world over are receiving CPD credits by being trained in how to deal with satanic ritual abuse and dissociative disorders.
However I would like to draw your attention to the fact that deluded, irrational, unscientific narratives about gender identity are also the subject of CPD accredited training courses for police, social workers and mental health professionals.
Here in the UK we use the The ICD-10 Classification of Mental and Behavioural Disorders, which states (scroll down)
"Dissociative and somatoform disorders, in relation to hysteria
The term "hysteria" has not been used in the title for any disorder in Chapter V(F) of ICD-10 because of its many and varied shades of meaning. Instead, "dissociative" has been preferred, to bring together disorders previously termed hysteria, of both dissociative and conversion types. This is largely because patients with the dissociative and conversion varieties often share a number of other characteristics, and in addition they frequently exhibit both varieties at the same or different times. It also seems reasonable to presume that the same (or very similar) psychological mechanisms are common to both types of symptoms.
There appears to be widespread international acceptance of the usefulness of grouping together several disorders with a predominantly physical or somatic mode of presentation under the term "somatoform". For the reasons already given, however, this new concept was not considered to be an adequate reason for separating amnesias and fugues from dissociative sensory and motor loss.
If multiple personality disorder (F44.81) does exist as something other than a culture-specific or even iatrogenic condition, then it is presumably best placed among the dissociative group."
Which is interesting as it places the dissociative disorders as somataform disorders (previously known as hysterical conversion disorders) which also provides some insight as to why there are connections between so called "body psychotherapists", neo-tantric cults and allegations of incest / SRA following massage treatments.
I have a lot more to say and to share on this issue and on other related issues.
I have no idea who you are and you do not know me. We have no way of challenging or validating each others personal narratives without exposing ourselves to online harassment.
With this in mind I suggest we proceed as follows
We avoid talking about our personal narratives and concentrate on the therapists concerned..
You believe that there are good therapists out there who work with dissociative disorders. It is entirely possible that you know about therapists I am unaware of.
I know about lots of abusive quacks, charlatans and predators.
I suggest that we share information about these therapists and take things from there.
If there are good therapists out there I would love to know about them.
I assume you would also be interested in learning about the links between the therapists and abusive cults yes?
Let us talk about the therapists and see what we turn up
How does that sound to you?