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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Meanwhile in Spain......

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MrsSnippyPants · 09/06/2019 13:14

I find this poster quite chilling.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39125187?fbclid=IwAR1cVvWgNbh0PiRnotjQEsH2liT9bC30ZXiC2DN48wLaEyLvMQqr0dqsmCI

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MrsSnippyPants · 09/06/2019 13:14

I know it's a couple of years old, but I wonder what the conclusion was?

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StealthPolarBear · 09/06/2019 13:15

The poster or the bus?

MrsSnippyPants · 09/06/2019 14:53

The clue is in my OP

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barelove · 09/06/2019 14:58

According to this website
progressivespain.com/2018/11/08/hazte-oir-tour-attacks-left-feminism-lgbt-community/

In mid-2017, Hazte Oír was granted an injunction by a Spanish court allowing its buses bearing the trans-phobic message to continue to circulate

Which at first sounds great, but....

But they do sound like a bunch of fundamentalist (total mentalists imo) christians who are also anti abortion rights and in 2017 promised to

'...launch a new bus campaign “against radical feminism” in the coming weeks.'

Hmm
barelove · 09/06/2019 15:01

Bloody hell that poster is f*cking awful. No no no!

GCAcademic · 09/06/2019 15:07

The poster looks like an illustration to a 1930s dystopian novel.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 09/06/2019 15:56

poster is creepy as fuck.

StealthPolarBear · 09/06/2019 16:11

OK sorry. Just that the very first picture on the link was the bus.

visca · 09/06/2019 17:31

I live in Spain. This is very old news. Hazte Oír are a far-right Catholic group who have also run campaigns against gay people, feminism, abortion etc. Sadly their anti-trans campaign made people more unthinkingly sympathetic to the trans cause, just because it's normal to oppose whatever Hazte Oír are supporting...

Having said that, in general, we have bigger problems here at the moment than trans issues, which are nowhere near as prominent as in the UK/US or some Latin American countries. Mainstream feminism in Spain is still more radical than liberal; surrogacy is illegal, for example. We are more focused on issues like fighting prostitution (Spain has become one of the worst countries in Europe in this area), gender violence, and the ongoing problem with the way rape cases are dealt with.

I work with young people in a job where I come into contact with hundreds each year, in probably the most progressive part of the country. I've only met one who IDs as non-binary. We're doing OK in this regard (for now).

MrsSnippyPants · 09/06/2019 18:17

Glad to hear it vista.
I wish we in the UK did not have to expend so much energy on the TRA agenda, it is exhausting. We are fighting on so many fronts, it is very difficult. I wish we were fighting to make things better for women and girls, but it feels like we are fighting just to stand still at the moment.

I did find that poster nauseating, gaslighting of the highest order.

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