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Hopenothate · 04/06/2019 19:51

I wrote to the head of woman’s aid about Diana that sat on the equality's committee about their shameful tweet about trying to get a look at a sex shop on the trains And got this reply 😊

Thank you for your email. I appreciate your concern and I was surprised to read the content of the tweets you forwarded to us.

Firstly, to clarify our relationship to member organisations in the Women’s Aid Federation; all our members are independent charities and are responsible for the management of their own staff and volunteers. When we receive complaints about member organisations, our Complaints Policy, attached, refers complainants to the organisation’s own complaints procedure in the first instance. If the complainant is not satisfied with the outcome of the member’s complaints process, they can refer the matter to us and we will investigate whether the organization has breached its terms of membership of Women’s Aid Federation of England.

Secondly, I think there is some confusion about what Diana Jones means in her tweet because of the lack of punctuation. The website named in the tweet is described on Wikipedia as being the site for, ”a sex shop, founded and run by women for women”, displaying items for sale. I read the tweet as complaining that GWR, “sees this [the shop] as porn”, whereas Diana sees it as a commercial website. She then says to GWR, “shame on you, not on those women accessing it”.

However, regardless of Diana’s intended meaning, I would agree that the website content is not appropriate to be viewed on public transport and it was legitimate for the train company to block it. I also agree with you that the tweet has not enhanced respect for the business of this vitally important select committee for promoting women’s equality and that is a great shame.

If you would like to complain about the behavior of Cornwall Women’s Refuge Trust’s volunteer, I can request Cornwall Women’s Refuge Trust’s Complaints Policy for you and can support you through the process of complaining to them.

If you don’t wish to make a formal complaint yourself, I will still make Cornwall Women’s Refuge Trust aware of the concerns you have expressed to us and I will review whether the behavior of the organization’s representative has breached any of our terms of membership. I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards

Janet McDermott
Head of Membership
Women's Aid Federation of England

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Hopenothate · 04/06/2019 19:53

It’s a small win but I take it

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OvaHere · 04/06/2019 20:00

That was overall fairly positive.

It could have done without the paragraph trying to defend what Diana does or doesn't consider pornographic but otherwise a good reply.

barelove · 04/06/2019 20:03

Small wins add up!

Brilliant that you made the effort. Star Flowers Star

Hopenothate · 04/06/2019 20:05

😂😂😂I bet she was like 😱😳after she just come back from sitting on a panel with Diana I also cc in Jess Phillips and the other MPs

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OrchidInTheSun · 04/06/2019 20:06

Good on you for writing and I think that's a reasonable response. I do still question why Diana Jones was giving evidence to a select committee. On the one hand, you have the head of nia, which runs numerous women focused initiatives to support women dealing with male violence and on the other, a volunteer from a small dv charity in Cornwall. Confused

JustAnotherWoman · 04/06/2019 20:09

Well done for following up

Binglebong · 04/06/2019 20:25

Well done, a good response I think. And especially that she will be bringing it up whether you wish to be involved or not.

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/06/2019 20:38

As soon as Janet complained about the lack of punctuation I thought she must be a Mumsnetter Grin

Mumfun · 04/06/2019 20:40

Good letter and good to have their verdict on Dianas behaviour out in the open

EmpressLesbianInChair · 04/06/2019 20:44

Good for you, Hope.

LassOfFyvie · 04/06/2019 20:46

Oh well done

Thingybob · 04/06/2019 20:53

Well done. In light of Janet McDermott's evidence to the select committee where she was sitting firmly on the woke fence, that reply is rather a strong condemnation of Diana

Michelleoftheresistance · 04/06/2019 21:15

If you get a chance please make mention that someone working in that field - and I hadn't realised a volunteer had been sent to give evidence to a select committee - has no excuse for not being thoroughly conversant with basic safeguarding and child safety and for their own safeguarding behaviour being above reproach as a basic requirement for their position of trust. Someone lacking appropriate social boundaries and appropriate basic care for people around them shouldn't be working in this field.

Hopenothate · 04/06/2019 21:21

Ladies please feel free to add your voices

If your school also is using mermaids
No outsiders or stonewall packs or trainers please write in to your local safe guarding Board

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TheInebriati · 04/06/2019 21:24

Well done OP, thats a good result.

Janet McDermott appears to get bogged down in detail before dealing with the main issue. I think that makes her less effective than she could be.
I found her noticeably less effective than KIS when they spoke together.

Michelleoftheresistance · 04/06/2019 21:30

Thanks Hope

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