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Janice Turner in The Times today ‘Milkshake Mob’

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MrsSnippyPants · 25/05/2019 16:41

“Report, block, ignore. It’s only social media. But this week someone who isn’t an anonymous idiot, but a named journalist on a well-known news website, suggested that I and several other women journalists should be milkshaked for the crime of attending a meeting set up to defend the 2010 Equality Act. Yes, for the offence of supporting existing legislation we were asking for assault. Fellow feminist writers say they’re only surprised it hasn’t happened already.”
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f3ce05e0-7e5c-11e9-bed7-b51375720f1f

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woman19 · 25/05/2019 20:29

it's particularly relevant to GC feminists as it's easy to see how the moral licence of their baseball bat-wielding, death in grease fire-wishing opponents can easily escalate to real-life (indeed 'literal') violenc^

Are you talking about alleged milkshake incidents here or violence against GC women?

Which is why the Jo Cox case is so important.

I'm puzzled as to why a thread initially about actual violence against women has posters so loathe to examine her assassination following the inciteful extreme right breaking point posters.

In a range of examples of alleged political violence, the crime committed against her, and our democracy as a result, is the very gravest.

Freespeecher · 25/05/2019 20:39

woman19

In Janice Turner's article (someone's posted the link upthread) she refers both to the milkshakings and the violent imagery directed at GC women. She uses the term 'moral licence' for those who think that their righteous beliefs give them a free pass in whatever they then do to those they perceive as the non-righteous, be they right wing politicians, GC feminists or any othre group that doesn't share their opinions.

I agree with her and think this is a dangerously slippery slope. I also think your attempt to link the 'Breaking Point' poster and the murder of Jo Cox is a stretch.

This is pretty much what I said in my last comment so, as I've said my piece, I'll leave it to other posters to kick this around for the rest of the thread.

nauticant · 25/05/2019 20:45

Let's get this right. Viewing this through your lens of Brexit vs Remain you use the killing of Jo Cox as a gotcha to excuse assaults, discounted as "alleged", being carried out on Brexiteers.

Turner was writing about you in her article.

FloralBunting · 25/05/2019 21:07

Turner was writing about you in her article.

Pretty much. Sickening.

woman19 · 25/05/2019 21:10

When have I excused assaults?

nauticant · 25/05/2019 21:12

I'm not sure what you're up to but I'm out.

woman19 · 25/05/2019 21:21

Viewing this through your lens of Brexit vs Remain you use the killing of Jo Cox as a gotcha to excuse assaults

I thought the alleged milkshake incidents were to do with brexit and remain?

Jo Cox's assassination certainly was, but in a feminist thread about violence against women it's the actual political violence we may not discuss?

Strange.

Caucho · 25/05/2019 21:26

It’s likely Jo Cox’s killer also thought he was being righteous in his actions and deserved what was coming to her. She would have been one of those left tree huggers subverting our country’s independence by campaigning to remain in the EU and betraying the British native population in her support for Muslims and foreigners.

Caucho · 25/05/2019 21:31

Whilst milkshake throwing is far different to killing people those who approve of it and find it all a big laugh do seem to harbour some level of similarities

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 25/05/2019 22:06

I’m with Janice. There is no moral superiority in throwing milkshake at someone you disagree with.

It’s a yucky version of #Nodebate. Not in my name.

SunsetBeetch · 26/05/2019 09:44

Thank you, truth

AlwaysComingHome · 26/05/2019 13:22

From a security point of view, if you are close enough to throw a milkshake you are close enough to throw acid. I wouldn’t blame a bodyguard for not waiting before taking the attacker down.

placemats · 26/05/2019 14:26

The milkshake incident, whilst wrong, was so obviously a set up.

It's the 'would you punch a Nazi' argument. My answer to that is No.

lucasthecat · 26/05/2019 15:01

Just to stand up for Helen Lewis - she absolutely did not stand up for Milkshaking - when I heard her on the news quiz she said she understood why people thought it was funny when it happened to Farage - but it wa the thin end of the Wedge - as now people were encouraging Milkshaking of Helen Lewis - for having the temerity of defending Feminists - she then made a jokey comment (it was the news quiz) about preferring G&T to dairy - on the other hand Zoe Williams - sounded stupid pathetic and entitled - supporting it as a Ludic act in the great tradition of European clowns - common assault is what it is Zoe

woman19 · 26/05/2019 20:06

'would you punch a Nazi' argument.
Absolutely. We are so lucky to live in a country which operates by the Rule of Law. In this case, OAP 1861.

We're also so lucky to have EU elections in which it would appear the Nazis across the EU27 and extreme right wingers and tories here, are being beaten with votes. Smile

Janice Turner is a truly awful writer, but she has probably helped us defeat a few of them with the ballot box, which is as it should be.

Thanks for posting the article OP. Smile

woman19 · 26/05/2019 20:10

'would you punch a Nazi' argument. My answer to that is No^
Peaceful action all the way. Smile

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