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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Tavistock is hiring

25 replies

OrchidInTheSun · 25/05/2019 04:48

This is the ad. Bigots and exploitative theoreticians need not apply.

Dr Christina Richards, who tweeted the ad, is trans and has co authored two books with Meg John Barker. The same Meg John Barker who wrote that ludicrous guide for psychotherapists that said that you can tell who women are because we're emotional. Unless we're northern. On and that clitorises are small penises.

Meg John is also Edward Lord's partner.

These are the people advising children who are confused about gender Sad

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FannyCann · 25/05/2019 05:49

Bigots and exploitative theoreticians need not apply

I thought that was your little joke OP. I didn't realise it was something that would be part of a job description in a professional magazine. Hmm

AncientLights · 25/05/2019 05:57

It's really shocking to see word such as 'bigots need not apply' in an NHS ad in a professional magazine. The ! does nothing to soften it.

OrchidInTheSun · 25/05/2019 06:10

It's really shocking. Don't they have any standards and guidelines they're supposed to adhere to?

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ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 25/05/2019 06:35

They're now using the word 'bigot' in formal job adverts. We're one step away from 'no haterz', aren't we Sad

OrchidInTheSun · 25/05/2019 06:36

Here's Richard's website: christinarichards.co.uk/

My what a lot of fingers in a lot of pies!

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OrchidInTheSun · 25/05/2019 06:39

And an extract from a book co written by Richards and Barker where they describe themselves as giants upon whose shoulders others may stand.

The sheer scale of the egos!

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 25/05/2019 06:56

Surely that phrase must breach all sorts of codes in an NHS ad. Worthy of a complaint?

JellySlice · 25/05/2019 07:00

Surely that phrase must breach all sorts of codes in an NHS ad. Worthy of a complaint?

But is it in the ad, or is it in an interview about the ad?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 25/05/2019 07:25

I think it’s from the psych mag, her own words. But she should be reprimanded for speaking like that. Totally inappropriate.

KarenTheCashRegister · 25/05/2019 08:02

The whole issue is becoming so toxic I think most professionals will avoid that particular specialism.

FannyCann · 25/05/2019 08:03

So many titles and qualifications listed after Richards' name. Who does that? In a professional magazine. Anyway, I love that the hubris is freely sprinkled around. I mean, they don't just want any old specialist they want a "Highly Specialist...." but later on we learn "the details can be learned"
So not necessarily that highly qualified to begin with then?
I'm going to offer the Consultants I work with a new job title. I suspect they will think I am taking the piss. Wink

justju · 25/05/2019 08:50

Holy living fuck

That needs all manner of official complaints.

Can you imagine them being your carers and people to guide you through something so difficult?

Popchyk · 25/05/2019 08:54

One of the recommendations from the GIDS Review Action Plan (after criticism by staff raised in the Bell Report) was to ensure that gender training was given to staff.

tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/about-us/news/stories/gender-identity-service-times-8-april-2019/

  1. GIDS will improve confidence in the skills of clinicians in the service by developing a formal curriculum and training to document all staff are provided with required skills for gender work. This training will be mandatory for all new staff.

No doubt this "skills for gender work" training will follow the affirmation-only model. Presumably Gendered Intelligence or some such will be delivering it.

So they are responding to serious clinical concerns from staff by ensuring that from now on, they will only hire clinicians who are believers in the first place.

OvaHere · 25/05/2019 09:08

The whole issue is becoming so toxic I think most professionals will avoid that particular specialism.

This is part of the issue because the whole industry then ends up being run by quacks and grifters due to those with standards and integrity running for the door.

OldCrone · 25/05/2019 09:13

Here's the ad. It's for the adult clinic, not the one that treats children.
thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-32/june-2019/featured-job-highly-specialist-clinical-or-counselling-psychologist

JellySlice · 25/05/2019 09:20

the whole industry

Exactly what this is turning into. It's moving from therapeutic treatment of people in distress, to satisfying clients and lobbyists.

OhHolyJesus · 25/05/2019 09:42

Have complained to the magazine. Regardless of what the Tavistock approved in the HR team it shouldn't have been published. The Tavi would have paid for the ad but you can't write "black people need not apply" any more than you can say 'bigot'. Surely they could have shifted through applications and rejected any GC applicants, writing it in as a prerequisite was just stupid. The magazine ultimately has responsibility here I think, it shows them up though. More sunlight.

EverardDigby · 25/05/2019 10:28

This is part of the issue because the whole industry then ends up being run by quacks and grifters due to those with standards and integrity running for the door.

Exactly, it doesn't give the impression that it's a thoughtful organisation with staff reflecting on their own practice.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 25/05/2019 10:31

Those words are in the ad. I am going to complain next week.

clitherow · 25/05/2019 10:47

Prof. Richards was elected to the Executive Board of the European Professional Association for Transgender Health (EPATH); and was selected by the executive board of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) to be Lead Chapter Author for Adult Assessment in the Standards of Care Version 8 (SoC v8) revision.

I'm sorry, this is my second time of posting this, but in case anyone hasn't seen it, this talk by Quentin Van Meter, who worked with John Money at Johns Hopkins, describes how WPATH came into being - how it is very far from being based in rigorous science and how real professional bodies become hijacked by small groups of activists. He also describes how the only person who has done any extensive research in this area (with over 560 people), Dr Zucker from Toronto Canada, has been closed down and virtually wiped from the academic record by these people. It is a baptist-organised conference but the lecture itself concentrates firmly on the history of how this came about and not on ideology or religious issues at all - it just happens that this man is a Christian who was also a paediatric endocrinologist at the epicentre of the transgender explosion.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 25/05/2019 10:48

Oh I am wrong not in as but can still complain to magazine.

hoodathunkit · 25/05/2019 11:29

Just sharing some thoughts about Meg-John Barker

Meg-John Barker was nominated for an Erotic Award award from long time pro-paedophillia activist Tuppy Owens and blogged about it. It makes for an interesting read, especially the way in which she describes Tuppy as a “sex therapist” rather than a former porn actress, pro-paedophile campaigner and founder of various organisations that connect vulnerable disabled people with dodgy sex workers, all of whom appear to be connected to tantric sex cults.

Meg-John also describes an association with Sue Newsome who she describes as "somebody who is involved in a conference which I’m putting on for COSRT later this year. She is a sex coach, educator and therapist who is also involved with SHADA (the Sex and Disability Alliance) and does very important work in this field.”

Not quite how I would describe Sue Newsome, in fact I could think of a few other more apt descriptions but I will leave it for readers to work things out for themselves.

source:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190525092613/www.rewriting-the-rules.com/sex/nominated-for-an-erotic-award/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190525092613/www.rewriting-the-rules.com/sex/nominated-for-an-erotic-award/

In fact it appears that Meg-John won the Erotic Award

This makes for fascinating reading and demonstrates just how well networked in Meg-John Barker is with tantric sex cults and paedophile rights activists

web.archive.org/web/20180816153344/open.edu/openlearn/society/politics-policy-people/society-matters/erotic-award-2013-ous-meg-barker-wins-the-academic-category

Tuppy’s Erotic Awards and Sexual Freedom Awards are worthy of further scrutiny.

A brief perusal of the other recipients of the Sexual Freedom awards and Erotic Awards demonstrate that there are people involved in tantric sex cults, many people who claim to be able to cure vulnerable people from sexual abuse trauma by having sex with them and even someone who co-authored a notorious cultic tome advocating the sexual abuse of children as sacred ceremony. I do not know about all of the recipients and some may merely be sex workers or brainwashed fools or even perfectly wonderful people who do not really understand what the Sexual Freedom Awards are all about.

Meg-John Barker is was also involved in the Explore More summit, an online event featuring lots of sex experts absolutely none of whom are involved in sex cults (sarcasm)

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160723043316/www.exploremoresummit.com/schedule" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20160723043316/www.exploremoresummit.com/schedule

The Explore More summit is the creation of a Ms Dawn Serra

Interested readers can discover more about here here
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190413052225/www.dawnserra.com/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190413052225/www.dawnserra.com/about/

There are many interesting people who Serra claims to be influenced by, just one I would like to draw the attention of readers to is the extremely controversial promoter of multiple personality disorder / dissociative identity disorder (now sometimes referred to as “complex trauma”), Bessel van der Kolk a man who is married to a new age sex worker and who was dismissed from his job for bullying female staff members at the Trauma Centre in Boston. Van der Kolk interests me as he is a node between various sex cults, yoga cults and mental health professionals who promote David Icke's conspiracy theories about MK Ultra mind control and satanic ritual abuse.

Which brings me back to the Tavistock, an organisation with a long history of staff who promote bizarre conspiracy theories about satanic ritual abuse but who also have multiple connection to persons involved in sex cults, Meg-John Barker being just one.

Readers should understand that the Tavistock is actually a network of different departments with some good, sane people working in it. Unfortunately there are also many dubious persons working at the Tavi and it is extremely important to take a nuanced perspective when researching this issue.

All I have time for now, I hope this is helpful

OldCrone · 25/05/2019 12:24

The link I posted before, which was shown in the tweet in the OP, isn't actually the job advert, it's an article about a 'featured job'. So, OhHolyJesus, you're right to complain to the magazine, because they are 100% responsible for their own articles. The 'bigots' bit is a quote from Prof. Christina Richards, who is the person to whom enquiries about the jobs should be made.

These are the actual job ads in the magazine - no mention of bigots.
www.jobsinpsychology.co.uk/jobs/2x-clinical-or-counselling-psychologist-posts-adult-gender-identity-clinic

And these are the details for one of them on the NHS site - again, no mention of bigots.
www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/vacancy/?vac_ref=915549192

OhHolyJesus · 25/05/2019 22:15

Just had a row with DH about this, he generally thinks I'm a bit mad writing all the angry emails that I do on a weekly basis.

Isn't 'bigot' subjective? I've had people call me a bigot but I don't think I am one. DH says it's like asking for open minded people to apply or for nice purple to apply. I think it depends on what you think is open minded or nice!

I don't think it's the same as saying no black people, no applicants from China or whatever - clearly these are physical things - but no bigots. I don't know I'm a not being clear (I'm a little bit tipsy) - they should just have said not GC Wrongthink Members apply.... now I'm drunk and angry again.

JellySlice · 26/05/2019 00:15

DH says it's like asking for open minded people to apply or for nice purple to apply.

He's wrong. (Does that make me a closed-minded bigot?) Job advertisements state what is wanted, not what is unwanted.

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