Does anyone know why an Irish trans group is on?
Because every single Scottish Trans group refused to come on. They still think No Debate is how they will win this.
And it was a real shame that the presenter failed to inform the viewers that Ireland had no legal recognition for trans people when self-id was introduced (which is why it made such a huge difference to them) AND that sitting alongside self-id Ireland has a large number of easy-to-use excemptions, exceptions and statutes that in practice mean they do not have self-id in the UK sense.
The latter ensure that single-sex provisions remain segregated by biological sex, including specifically even where people may just feel embarrassed for privacy reasons and they allow any provider for instance to simply exclude a person if they just think they pose a risk of disorderly conduct such as by abusing the service or becoming aggressive or abusive.
Plus all kinds of things are specifically allowed to be single-sex for all kinds of reasons. And there is the possibility of gate keeping by the Irish government built into the law.
Irish self-id is not what is proposed in the UK and it is disingenuous if not to say gaslighting to equate the two.
So whoever that male was, please note what was not said - no fond reminiscences of using all kinds of single-sex spaces, not even refuges, just a statement that males who identify as trans need them too for instance. It was for all intents a magnificent performance in avoiding any and all mention of the glaring differences between our two self-id systems. Not even the slightest hint escaped during that lengthy interview.
Helped in no small measure by the fact that like most of us, the presenter didn't know that the Irish system is so very different from the one proposed here or the one in use in Canada.
MM was great. Refreshing to see someone just state out loud what needs to be said. Joan was fab, loved the direct challenge re women having penises. The other contributors, like Susan and Lucy made great points, too.
And I don't know what was up with that Green Party person. Quite aside from a less than assured performance full of tired tropes and bonkers claims that noone outside of Wokistan believes, how dare she resurrect the lesbophobic spectre of the predatory lesbian? How fucking dare she!
I recently spoke to a wonderful young woman whose time at high school was hell because that accusation was used to bully her relentlessly and to ostracise her from her peers.
It is beyond the pale for a so-called LGBT ally to bring up such a homophobic talking point in defence of letting males into refuges for females.