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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The modern woman’s guide to self abortion

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Bollockingfuck · 19/05/2019 18:06

Tragic that this is what we have been forced to regress to. For your own information and sharing purposes.

marylousingleton.wordpress.com/2019/05/17/the-modern-womans-guide-to-self-abortion/?fbclid=IwAR3l8SNCQidFL_BgsF016dc7jpUP7dF71vniLSAfi1hbd1F2KD4fPgNv5OQ

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Apileofballyhoo · 19/05/2019 18:31

That's nearly made me cry.

newtlover · 19/05/2019 19:18

I have worried all my adult life that we would end up in this situation
(thankfully in mainland UK we are not there at the moment)
but always, at the back of my mind is the consciousness that we may have to go underground to control our fertility

MangoesAreMyFavourite · 20/05/2019 06:41

Fucking hell. This is progress. ARGH indeed!!

ChattyLion · 20/05/2019 07:52

Thank you for sharing this. I can’t imagine how I would feel about reading this type of information if I lived in Northern Ireland.

TheCuriousMonkey · 20/05/2019 07:53

Beyond depressing.

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 20/05/2019 08:46

Wow, this should not have to be used in this day and age. Heartbreaking.

Genderfreelass · 20/05/2019 08:52

Just reading the title is heartbreaking. That women's rights are being destroyed to the extent that some will need to do secret DIY abortions to avoid prison 😣

StealthPolarBear · 20/05/2019 08:53

Shit
From the safety of my UK home I read all that thinking this is a very bad idea.
But as the least worst option...
What happened to the woman who didn't cry enough? Has she been released now?

Illiantium · 20/05/2019 09:50

I didn't cry when I haemorrhaged after miscarriage. I was totally flat and matter of a fact at the hospital. God forbid we don't act the way someone else decides we should in a traumatic situation. It's not as if women are real human beings with complex emotions rather than robots with a limited range of preset acceptable emotions.

TheInebriati · 20/05/2019 11:02

Archived at;
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190520095850/marylousingleton.wordpress.com/2019/05/17/the-modern-womans-guide-to-self-abortion/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190520095850/marylousingleton.wordpress.com/2019/05/17/the-modern-womans-guide-to-self-abortion/

Tiny URL;

tinyurl.com/yylq3po5

tinyurl.com/SOSwomen

FannyCann · 20/05/2019 11:19

As a point of interest can it really clear out all by our menstrual flow day one? Doesn't sound likely but as someone cursed with a dh Orr cycle

FannyCann · 20/05/2019 11:22

As a point of interest can it really clear out all the menstrual flow day one? Doesn't sound likely but as someone cursed with a short cycle of heavy periods I absolutely would have tried that when I was younger.
Obvious concerns re infection and damage to fertility/cervical incompetence in the future.
Quite apart from the risks of a diy abortion.

FannyCann · 20/05/2019 11:23

Sorry, phone started posting for me early.

ZebrasAreBras · 20/05/2019 12:27

I'm heartbroken for my American sisters that it has come to this. I'm in the UK too, so we're relatively safe here (apart from NI of course) but our rights to a legal, safe abortion have felt under pressure for years - eg Nadine Dorries a few years ago.

That was a fascinating article (despite the horrifying parts) and I've realised I have a limited knowledge of my own body, even though I think I am relatively well-informed compared to my real-life peers (from conversations we've had).

The line: "Patriarchal medicine intentionally keeps women uninformed about our most basic anatomy and physiology." really rings true.

allmywhat · 20/05/2019 20:43

Does anyone know somewhere you can learn how to do menstrual extraction? It sounds worth the risks tbh, even just from the point of view of control over your own body, never mind the abortion angle.

S1naidSucks · 20/05/2019 20:52

That’s such a sad but brilliant article. I’ve saved it for any women in need, here in NI.

Fuckedoffat48b · 20/05/2019 21:37

Menstrual extraction was something promoted in socialist (and yet pretty Catholic) South American countries for a while. Any background knowledge on this will likely come from there.

TheInebriati · 20/05/2019 21:45

I'm curious how it works if you have fibroids.

Greenandcabbagelooking · 20/05/2019 21:47

Wow. That was hard-hitting. There should not be the need for this type of thing anywhere in the world.

I'm a science teacher with an Masters in a topic linked to female health. I don't think I could say what a cervix looks like, or how far inside the vagina it sits. I've shocked myself that I don't know that.

Bollockingfuck · 21/05/2019 20:03

TheInibriati
Thanks for making the link better - I imagine there would be times you definitely wouldn’t want the title visible.

When I shared it I meant to add that obviously I sincerely hope it never comes to that for anyone.

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Moralitym1n1 · 21/05/2019 22:09

I’ve saved it for any women in need, here in NI.

No offence but a woman in NI would be better getting as cheap a flight as she can get to England alongside an appointment with a family planning/abortion clinic rather than trying to follow the procedures, if that's the word, in that article.

It may not be legal here but there are helplines that advise and forward people (in fact even the NHS did when I worked in child health/family planning) a woman could call. Or I suppose she could just call an English service directly. May not be funded though, I'm not sure.

Moralitym1n1 · 21/05/2019 22:12

Found this on Marie Stopes;

_While abortion care is not available on the NHS for women in Northern Ireland, in June 2017 the UK Government announced they would commit to cover the cost of abortion care for women from Northern Ireland who are treated in England."

ControversialFerret · 22/05/2019 14:43

I just read the link. And for the first time ever, at the age of 40 and being lucky to be a well educated, white UK-born woman (and therefore benefiting from many privileges others don't have), I feel frightened.

The hairs on my arms are standing up and I have gooseflesh. I closed that link and thought that this is the first time I've ever felt like we are genuinely teetering on the edge of Gilead and Margaret Atwood's dystopian nightmare.

I also feel ashamed, because if I feel frightened, then how the fuck does an undocumented female immigrant in Alabama feel right now?

ShadowsInTheDarkness · 22/05/2019 15:12

Yeah that's a hard read isnt it, the realisation that this is real and neccessary today, in modern first world countries? I spent a lot of last Friday watching protests, listening to women's brave speeches about their experiences of rape and abortion, and trying to find out if there was anything I could DO etc and was in such a bad place by the time DH got home that he thought something had happened with the kids. It was just fear, huge fear and anger and an awful queasy sense of horror. I cant donate to any organisations as we are really struggling for money right now, I just hate how helpless we are. I'm sorry, I don't post over here much as you are all so much more eloquent than me, but I lurk and read and today just felt the need to share my incredibly deep sense of horror. and like Controversial I don't feel like I should be talking about how I feel when there are women in the midst of this and I can't imagine how they are feeling right now.

I remember reading some horror book a few years ago about a young girl who found out she was pregnant, possibly by a rape or abuse cant remember the details. She was so utterly terrified about this pregnancy and too young to be aware of where she could go for help that she borrowed her mum's sewing kit and sewed herself shut. It was a really hard read, the pain she must have felt and I cannot remember what happened after that, but that mental image has stayed with me ever since. it's horrifying that things imagined up for dark edgy novels are now becoming reality.

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