Recent Abortion Acts and Definition of Woman

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Quite rightly most of Twitter and the world are up in arms about the recent laws passed in places such as Alabama effectively outlawing abortion. And I noticed a lot of "no uterus, no opinion" and "if you have a penis you have no right to comment on a women's issue" on Twitter and Reddit. I suspect a lot of the women stating such things are actually in the "trans women are women" woke brigade. . I think it may be a good tool to use when arguing the case when confronted with the TWAW argument by other women, as I think this issue is one that most women feel fervently about as only affecting women, and if you press for well what is a woman, they'll say someone who possesses the parts to theoretically need an abortion one day. In other words, not a man who decided he's a woman now. Am i making any sense?

No

Yes

Yes, lots of sense.

I heard part of a news bulletin on R4 yesterday which included a clip of an American woman saying that men should not be passing these laws. I assumed she was a Democrat, and questioned in my own mind how that would stack up against the Trans Rights policy.

I Can also foresee, with the Right taking a hold across Europe, that abortion rights will be partially removed in many instances and that these questions will be raised again. However, LGBT rights would also be under threat and I would not trust the left to not negotiate away women’s rights to save LGBT, the start of which can be seen here with the Labour Party.

Yes, you are making sense, but I'm not sure whether it will make any difference.

See also people on twitter who cannot understand why 'cis' can be misgendering.

However, LGBT rights would also be under threat and I would not trust the left to not negotiate away women’s rights to save LGBT, the start of which can be seen here with the Labour Party.

'L' rights are already being thrown under the bus, and there is apparent blindness to the fact that if you can't define 'T', you can't protect 'T' rights either.

This is about respect for and affirmation of idenity, regardless of consequent damage to rights. It's the essence of toxic masculinity.

Not really. I think shutting men out of commenting on this is pretty dumb. Abortion, reproduction, bodily autonomy are human issues. Plenty of women are pro forced birth - c.f. Arlene Foster. What 'no penis no opinion' seems to mean is 'only people who agree with me can speak'. I won't have that.

The small number of female legislators in the bodies that are passing these laws speaks volumes. And reading an article sayibg this issue affected 'people with uteruses' made me feel homicidal tbh. But there are gynophilic men out there, and men who can argue the case for bodily autonomy, and I don't want anyone silenced.

If only uterus havers were allowed to speak/ have a vote in the UK the time limit may well decrease.

To be clear what I meant was that whilst opinion polls show a majority of the UK population support abortion they also show more support amongst women for a reduction in the time limit.

I don't think the point being made is that men shouldn't speak on this issue. The point is the inconsistency.

Yes sorry, I don't agree that men should not be able to comment on the issue - they should. What I mean is those who think only women should be allowed to comment seem to have a very clear definition of what a woman is, yet when it comes to discussing trans women they think men can in fact be women.

And sorry my last comment is generalising - I of course mean some women, not all.

Here's a tra adding to the debate on twitter that its a woman only issue, like the op I expected to see more shouts of transphobia everytime I see 'no womb, no opinion' type posts.

twitter.com/bigfootsheelys/status/1129788198861905920?s=19

Here is a TRA nut job reminding us how we must centre males at all times. Privelige indeed

I thought that particular quote had been called out as fake?

Yeah great privilege, needing to have an abortion.

Is there nothing they won't use to hammer home how unfortunate and marginalised they are?