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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Period pain, since when was it down to estrogen?

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EachDubh · 17/05/2019 21:44

I have just wound myself up reading about the transwoman period and period pain.
I may be being totally unfair and wrong but this one can't be shared, it's sex specific and it's horrible. Why would anyone ever want to have it? I am now so far over the hill and into the wilderness but have this building anger at how some of the population feel they can appropriate sex specific symptoms to make the feel what they can never be.
Whilst i am of the live and let live, generally i am less of the live and let lie. For 28 years i have had period pain every 21 days, not 4-5 weeks as the kindly person wrote. Only a break with pregnancy, which brings it's own complications, i have at least another 1 years ahead of me. Anyone can take the pain but you can't claim it on a falsehood, sorry no way do you get to undermine my ligitimate experience with your made up one.
Sorry for the rant.

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Coyoacan · 18/05/2019 13:44

If they are getting unexplained abdominal pain on a regular basis they should see a doctor

This

Whatever symptoms they have are a sign that something is wrong, which is hardly surprising because the human body was not designed to take cross-sex hormones.

By catering to this fantasy, their allies are putting off the day when they realise that they are actually poisoning themselves.

DoxxedFox · 18/05/2019 15:01

@Grumpygran It’s actually not far off the mark!

OhHolyJesus · 18/05/2019 15:49

Tinsel is right, I shouldn't have said dysphoria...and I go on about words and language being important all the time! Quite rightly I stand corrected.

EachDubh · 18/05/2019 16:14

Thankbyou for all the replies, ladt night i was just seeing a bit red. Women already suffer from the get over it it's nothing attitude and this was someone else, who hasn't got a clue, telling us what it's like and how research should include those of the male sex.
However i was cheered this morning by the bbc talking about the Menopause as being someing women suffer from. A tiny bit of normality in a world of strangeness.

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Saltovinegar · 18/05/2019 17:10

I was also watching the BBC and Louise Minchin said the menopause was something PEOPLE like her suffered from. 🤬

Erythronium · 18/05/2019 17:52

It's validation isn't it? More "proof" that they're women. Look! Transwomen have periods too! They really, really must be women!

Despite the fact that female biology and female physiology has nothing to do with being a woman nowadays, hence the female penis and female sperm - once a month they're still having a female biological process. Ridiculous, self-contradictory and frankly insane.

nettie434 · 18/05/2019 23:31

Louise Minchin said the menopause was something PEOPLE like her suffered from.

I saw lots of tweets earlier today about the disgraceful lack of attention to the andropause (name for male menopause apparently). Maybe Louise M was trying to avoid that sort of criticism! Alternatively, I am quite careful about using ‘people’ and then all of a sudden I remember that referring to women or men is sometimes just fine. She could be the same.

Also saw that when the footballer Hector Bellerin tweeted about the Alabama abortion decision, Fathers for Justice and some other men replied asking why he was bothering with that when he should be tweeting about their situation. You can change your gender but it’s harder to get rid of that sense of entitlement.

bettybeans · 18/05/2019 23:41

This is my pet peeve. I can't stand this chat about TW periods and their period pain. It's such bullshit. Aside from the absence of a uterus, cramps and prostaglandins there is no cyclical nature to their hormone regime. A period is a period, it requires a uterus shedding lining. Attempts to redefine that as some sort of unfortunate physical reaction to taking hormones is infuriating.

I sometimes think of them when I'm bleeding so heavily I can't leave the house, and when I'm cramping so badly I feel like I'm in labour again, or I have nausea so bad I spend the day hanging out near the loo, or when I feel faint with pain because I'm passing a clot, or when the pain makes me cry, or when my back and thighs are aching with shooting pains like I've done myself a terrible injury. Fuck off with your appropriation of periods. I'd not have this monthly torment in a heartbeat.

Sorry. TMI. But this subject does my head in.

Erythronium · 18/05/2019 23:43

It's creepy to know what men fetishise isn't it? Periods? I mean, really.

OhHolyJesus · 19/05/2019 07:13

I looked up menophilia once Erythronium
and deeply regretted it. The online forums, the individual stories, the stealing from public sanitary bins...

I'm grateful to this board for teaching me so much about the risks of Self ID and the obvious erosion of women's rights (I was so naive) but there are some things you can't unsee and that and MAP/NOMAPs do haunt me.

Saltovinegar · 19/05/2019 07:36

I was sterilised in my 30's. Now in my late 50's and I'm on the pill to stop my periods as they were so bad. I don't actually know if I've been through the menopause.

One thing I do know is that no man has ever had to sit on the toilet with both blood and diarrhoea pouring out of them whilst crying with the pain due to their period.

Anyone who uses the word people when referring to periods and the menopause can bugger off.

DpWm · 19/05/2019 22:18

Whatever symptoms they have are a sign that something is wrong, which is hardly surprising because the human body was not designed to take cross-sex hormones

A while back, before my peak-of-all-peaks, I stumbled upon a Twitter thread started by a TW who was posting in live-time about the agony they were in from "their period", reporting "feeling doubled up in pain" etc.
I was honestly and truly concerned for this suffering person, so I tried to help constructively saying something along the lines of

"You really need to speak to a doctor if you are suffering this much from abdominal pains, but whatever you do don't tell them you're a woman on your period because they'll fob you off and send you away to buy your own painkillers. You must have something really wrong with you that needs looking into. Love and hugs etc"

Needless to say I was blocked and no idea if the person ever got treated...

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