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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anybody watching Planet Child. ITV

21 replies

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:40

I despair.
Sad

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Slumcat · 15/05/2019 21:43

No I’m not I’m almost afraid to ask but what?

SirVixofVixHall · 15/05/2019 21:44

No, what is happening ?

Barbarafromblackpool · 15/05/2019 21:45

Turned it off, it was so annoying.

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:45

It is about gender awareness and stereotypes.
But it feels like it is very superficial and missing the point.

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newtlover · 15/05/2019 21:47

that's a shame, that programme a year or so back (was it no more boys and girls or something) was really good

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:47

I missed the first half. So maybe I am missing something.
But I am veering towards shouting at the tv.
Hoping there might be something a bit more insightful before the end.

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Ironfloor269 · 15/05/2019 21:48

I am. Those beauty pageants for kids are proper disturbing. What is wrong with America? What with beauty pageants, chastity balls, gun culture and banning abortion, the country gives me the bloody creeps.

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:50

I know.
The 4 year old in the beaty pageant is shocking.
I thought of Jonbenet Ramsey.

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Erythronium · 15/05/2019 21:51

They say the babies have a particular preference for certain toys but ignore that the children pretty much force particular toys on them depending on their sex. That will have been going on for the whole of their little lives, same with girls getting put in pink. It has an effect.

BlueberriesAndCream · 15/05/2019 21:55

the previous episodes had some interesting things about the parents' reactions to the tasks etc.

But this week is awful. The experiments are utterly unscientific, just little anecdotes, and full of holes in terms of controlled experiments - and people watching then think it's science.

They tell us what 'science' has says, and then when the children conform to that, they act like it's proved something, but when they don't, they don't make much of a deal about it, just saying that maybe things are changing.

They don't explain how well the original 'research' was done that any of the findings come from.

And it completely conflates stereotypes, supposedly innate behaviour, social contagion in the tasks, etc etc. and just makes it seem like they are proving inborn differences between the boys and girls.

The pageant stuff was awful too - the parents, judges, everyone, and none of them seemed to see the problem. They seemed to believe that it was truly giving her more opportunities and confidence etc, despite it being so superficial. Really sad to see how much of her life was taken over by the pageants, and how unnatural it all was.

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:55

I don't think social conditioning has been mentioned.

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endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2019 21:56

It is not good for my blood pressure.

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narcissistseverywhere · 15/05/2019 21:58

Watched two minutes of it, awful

BertBox · 15/05/2019 22:08

I'm not bothering, after your reviews! Shame, as I was really really hoping the Van Tulleken twins had some sense about them - my daughter loves them - we met them after a show and they were lovely, and my last hope of being slebs who 'got it'. But they've never made any comments one way or another on twitter, and Operation Ouch now has Dr Ronx, who's achingly non-binary...

MrsJamin · 15/05/2019 22:14

Oh dear. My children loved the first two episodes and I will have to say that this one is bollocks and why and they will probably just think I am ranting. To be fair I have a psychology degree so I'd hope they would know what I was talking about.

lifetothefull · 16/05/2019 23:12

I was annoyed about the kids being asked to sort the coloured balls into a boy pile and a girl pile. They were pink and blue. That's not an experiment, it's indoctrination.

lifetothefull · 16/05/2019 23:21

Then at the end, the girls and boys had a dance competion. They all looked like they had fun. Boys were flossing and doing some other moves. Girls had properly stylish dance moves with some difficult gymnastics included and looked way better. Dr Xand or Chris (I get them confused) proclaimed it to be a draw. Thing is, I totally understand why he would do this. You wouldn't want the boys to go away on a downer and you know the girls will be happy with a shared win. I guess I was just surprised to see it so blatantly on this type of show.

endofthelinefinally · 17/05/2019 05:13

It was a complete cave-in to socially indoctrinated stereotypes with absolutely no insight or thought.

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MockerstheFeManist · 17/05/2019 08:19

The Way Television Works:

C4's 'The Secret Life of 5 Year Olds' was a sucess, and so ITV and C5 rushed out and commissioned near-copies: Planet Child and When I Grown Up.

Cute Moppets. Sexy Medics or Child Psyches. Calming narration by a Nactor, Dahling.

It's a sure-fire hit.

WhispersOfWickedness · 17/05/2019 08:25

Thank you for this, OP, I loved the first two, but winced at the advert for this episode, so will give it a wide berth and hope for a return to sanity for the next programme 😕

SleepingSloth · 17/05/2019 09:51

I despair

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