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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harry'The Owl' Miller talking to Julia Hartley-Brewer this morning

21 replies

Nephilim1964 · 13/05/2019 14:41

Harry talking to JHB about his new campaign re police training.

He was on the 9.30-10.00 slot about 10 minutes from the end

talkradio.co.uk/radio/listen-again/1557725400#

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Datun · 13/05/2019 14:54

Thanks for that OP.

ScipioAfricanus · 13/05/2019 15:02

Thanks, I enjoyed that!

HandsOffMyRights · 13/05/2019 15:05

Thanks OP!
Thanks Harry and thanks Julia.

Thanks to Humberside Police. Without your appalling recent treatment of Harry this long overdue venture would not have come about.

I have donated because, like Harry, I know that a woman is an adult, human female.
I agree that police nationwide need to be held to account for politicising policing in this way and for seemingly only listening to TRA trainers and voices.

This has to stop. Go Harry!

resisterpersister · 13/05/2019 15:28

More on Harry and his campaign here:

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/05/2019 15:32

Thanks Nephilim. I hope Harry gets lots of support for this.

I know we can't do links but google is quite helpful!

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/05/2019 15:34

DON'T POST LINKS! Beady eyes are watching and will report!

ILuvBirdsEye · 13/05/2019 15:46

Thanks Harry.

JackyHolyoake · 13/05/2019 15:48

There are now 8835 good things happening in support of the Fair Cop campaign.

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/05/2019 15:50

But we have to reach the target by the date given, otherwise the good things will be returned to the people who sent them.

Molamola · 13/05/2019 15:51

There is a related hearing tomorrow at 2pm in Room E100 at the High Court: www.justice.gov.uk/courts/court-lists/list-queens-bench-masters

The application appears to be on the Urgent and Short Applications List. The hearing is probably open to the public in theory, but will be held in the Master’s room who is under no obligation to accommodate public attendance.

DancingRaven · 13/05/2019 15:59

Does that mean people should not attend? One to watch

Nephilim1964 · 13/05/2019 16:11

This really seems to be gaining traction now. PUUUUUULLLLLL!!

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Molamola · 13/05/2019 16:17

From plans, E100 looks like one of the larger Masters’ rooms so may be able to accommodate people in addition to the parties and their legal reps. There is the possibility that the hearing will be held in private but requires an application by one of the parties.

Looks like Tommy Robinson is also due at the High Court at 2pm tomorrow so there will be plenty of press around.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 13/05/2019 16:46

Really isn't space for the public in Master D's room. Technically there are about 8 seats but it's not really open.

littlbrowndog · 13/05/2019 16:57

Good work harry. Listened to him and Julia

Just common sense

The police being weaponised when somebody gets hurty feelings. Ffs

MockerstheFeManist · 13/05/2019 18:29

Harry is correct: The Problem does go back to MacPherson, Recommendation 12, Page 376:

DEFINITION OF RACIST INCIDENT
12. That the definition should be:
"A racist incident is any incident which is perceived to be racist by the
victim or any other person".

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/277111/4262.pdf

It is ambiguous, but for the incident to be perceived as racist there must be an "incident." (13) says an incident need not be a crime, but does not say what it needs to be.

It would have helped if the definition had said "any (other) reasonable person, where perceptions in law are founded on the persepective of a resonable person, a circular definition, a reasonable person is a person who is reasonable, but one which a jury can consider.

jeaux90 · 13/05/2019 18:38

I've donated to Harry's action. We have two great usecases on the go.

Talk radio is fast becoming my go to rather than my beloved R4

Thingybob · 13/05/2019 19:02

Well done Harry and well done Julia.

".....it's a statement of the bleedin' obvious that a trans woman is not a woman because if you are born a man, you are not a woman....."

JHB this morning.

TimeLady · 13/05/2019 19:39

Great interview. Well worth a listen.

Genderfreelass · 13/05/2019 19:52

Well done to Harry and JHB keep shining great big lights.

Needmoresleep · 14/05/2019 17:53

Looks like Harry is 40% of the way to his target. It’s been set so you only pay if he has sufficient money to proceed.

I really hope he does. This bollox is so unacceptable.

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