Radio 4 now - children of trans parents

[MsMcWibble]

That's it.

Listening

Me to

Crikey - surely not everyone whose parent transitions is as wonderfully happy as these women! Nice balance bbc

Note presenter is not Jenni nor Jane.

I thought that Iamanaubergine Wonder how they selected these interviewees?

An awful lot not said here.
And glaring absence of people who have had a bad relationship. BBC gets worse and worse.
So much put on these women as children.

My dad transitioned. It's not something I talk about in real life. It destroyed our relationship.

Just to add some balance.

I have some experience of this too Haz1516, certainly wasn't happy families in our family's household.

When I was a teenager a man in the village over several years transitioned - his kids became so withdrawn, they were so embarrassed. No one really talked about it and certainly no one said anything to the kids who were a bit younger than me. It all started fairly innocuous with him wearing marigolds and a frilly little apron doing the gardening but over several years he transitioned and then they moved away and I think but not sure if the parents split up then. Just from seeing how withdrawn the two kids, a boy and girl, became it obviously impacted on them in a big and definitely negative way sadly.

Sorry to hear that Haz. More in line with what I thought. The secrecy talked about by one of those women sounds bad enough in itself.

Started off as all sweetness and light and ended positively, though I did get the impression that one or two found it difficult to be enthusiastically positive. The middle section was interesting as they discussed some of the difficulties. The longer interview gave time for those difficulties to be aired.

One struggled for 29 years.

I'm normally a cynic over claims that bbc is biased, but...

I think this is "compensation" for the programmes they did in the autumn.

Again, I note it's not Jane nor Jenni presenting.

I think there was quite a bit in the middle section that was not all positive, thus not completely one way. It may have been better to have had Haz's experience represented as well.

Look at the line up an photo. I mean, really??

What happens in women's loos.

I hope this is serious and not just lipstick.

Miscarriages?

"Women's inhibitions loosening up in toilets."

Because they're for human females.

I hope this is the 'balance'...

Is it just me who couldn’t relate to the loo item? Baffling.

And grist to the mill of TWs who have the idea that women’s loos are an identity-validating social club...

I listened to this yesterday and found it quite bizarre ... it started out from an "everything is wonderful" position but while repeating how wonderful the dads were they referred to the transition being like a death, the 29 year adjustment, and there was a very strong sense of protection of the dads at the centre of their stories. Women's socialisation? Even when supposedly talking about how they felt, they were hugely focused on protecting the feelings of others? And given there have to be children who have found the process hugely upsetting there was a feeling of lack of balance. All in all, a bit rubbish.

I tuned in on the women in toilets bit. And tuned out again. Go in, have a pee, wash hands, go out. Or am I doing it wrong?

If you are, so am I.

And fwiw I’ve never laughed at a salad.

But have you ever considered a power nap in the ladies?