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Morning Star, "Woman ‘attacked in racist incident at May Day march’ Community activist and feminist Lesley Woodburn abused whilst holding “Woman: Adult human female,” banner

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R0wantrees · 03/05/2019 19:57

'Woman ‘attacked in racist incident at May Day march'
(extract)
FOOTAGE has emerged of an incident in which a black woman appears to be called a “n*er” on the London May Day march.

Community activist and feminist Lesley Woodburn described how a group of young white people racially abused her for a banner she was carrying with a friend on May 1.

The banner displayed the dictionary definition of the word woman: “Woman: Adult human female,” which she said she was carrying to “defend our sex-based rights as women and girls,” in relation to contemporary debate about sex and gender.

She said that while she was walking on the march the group shouted: “Black scum,” “transphobe” and “Terf” at her – which is a derogatory term for women who are concerned about planned changes to the Gender Recognition Act.

Ms Woodburn said that when she arrived at the rally in Trafalgar Square she stood watching the speakers for around half an hour before being approached by a man who handed her a leaflet for a London Antifa group before becoming aggressive.

She alleges that he tried to grab her banner off her, saying it was “transphobic.”

She says he then pulled on the banner and deliberately let go. She fell to the ground and hurt her back.

Ms Woodburn says the group of young white people then reappeared and one of them called her a “ner” and others chanted “Terf, terf, terf” at her and called her a “fascist.” The Morning Star received an anonymous message disputing this and saying the word heard as “ner” was actually “bigot.”

Ms Woodburn added that she was “surprised, shocked and hurt” by the incident but that she had found “a new strength” and that she “wouldn’t be bullied” for standing up for women’s sex-based rights." (continues)
morningstaronline.co.uk/article/woman-%E2%80%98attacked-racist-incident-may-day-march%E2%80%99

see also thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3574935-London-TERFs-crash-Mayday-march-hilarious-write-up-about-ReSisters-just-being-present

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R0wantrees · 03/05/2019 20:05

Anne Ruzylo (tweet links to video) comment,
"Have you anything to say johnmcdonnellMP? Two women were attacked verbally and physically prior to and during your speech by men's rights and trans rights activists."
mobile.twitter.com/sargesalute/status/1123723857666433024

Sonia Poulton, "Lesley asks that if people are disturbed by what they saw on that video, that they please make that known to the Mayday Committee."

(Transcribed)
Lesley, "I've been going to May Day parades for say, over 20 years here now, and this was the first May Day parade in which I was called black scum on the march and at Trafalgar Square called a nr. And, really enough. I'm seeing, I'm seeing a whole generation of young people being duped by a form of, you know, what is in essence, Facism."

H/t FloralBunting

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Michelleoftheresistance · 03/05/2019 20:06

Racist abuse at a woman who disagrees with them.

Colour me surprised. There really are no woman-hating depths to which this lobby won't sink.

(Just for information.....do the BNP behave this badly to groups they disapprove of in public places? Have they ever assaulted anyone? Because they kind of have the cup at the moment for the political lowest of the low group but they may be outclassed)

Genderfreelass · 03/05/2019 20:11

Great article. It really is appalling the way women are being treated. That antifa called a woman n**r for a dictionary definition, I'm no fan of antifa but that is just outrageous and like the far right they profess to hate, yet are so similar to!

I wonder will they start burning all the transphobic dictionaries soon?

Chiochan · 03/05/2019 20:18

Yeah, because the word 'n*er' and 'bigot' sound exactly alike. Not.
Your racism (as well as your sexism) is showing dear.

ZebrasAreBras · 03/05/2019 20:47

Excellent article, thanks for posting Rowan. That video is appalling.

Weirdly, I'm reminded of Zuby, who in an interview with Posie, described how a white person called him, a black man, a "white supremacist" on twitter. You couldn't make it up, could you. I've attached Zuby's twitter profile so those not familiar with him can understand the ridiculousness of woke politics.....

Morning Star,  "Woman ‘attacked in racist incident at May Day march’ Community activist and feminist Lesley Woodburn abused whilst holding “Woman: Adult human female,” banner
ZebrasAreBras · 03/05/2019 20:49

And Antifa scare me just as much as the far right just now. I can't believe this, but it's true. And Momentum.

AlwaysComingHome · 03/05/2019 20:53

Maybe she was ‘cis-black’ and ‘deserved it.’

The intersectional mask is slipping. Whodda thunk a bunch of lesbophobic misogynists would be racist too?

stillathing · 03/05/2019 20:55

Another who is totally not surprised that the misogynists are also racist. So much of their ideology is racist - such as that transwomen are women because black women are women. Or that it is only in non Western countries that women need sex segregated toilets.

GrinitchSpinach · 03/05/2019 20:56

What progressives! Such intersectionalism!

/s obviously

In seriousness, though, a round of applause for Lesley: for she’s a jolly brave woman, which nobody can deny!

JessicaWakefieldSV · 03/05/2019 21:00

I’m so sorry this happened to Lesley. What a horrible incident.

nauticant · 03/05/2019 21:16

Progressive trans allies have a tendency for racism, misogyny, and violence against women?

R0wantrees · 03/05/2019 21:33

In seriousness, though, a round of applause for Lesley: for she’s a jolly brave woman, which nobody can deny!

She is Flowers & Star

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TheBullshitGoesOn · 03/05/2019 22:01

Another thing that disturbs me is that I am not surprised by this. I should be surprised. This should be surprising.

It is shocking that this sort of behaviour seems almost expected.

Flowers for Lesley. A true shero.

Cuntysnark · 03/05/2019 22:06

Jfc ...

R0wantrees · 04/05/2019 11:34

(Just for information.....do the BNP behave this badly to groups they disapprove of in public places? Have they ever assaulted anyone? Because they kind of have the cup at the moment for the political lowest of the low group but they may be outclassed)

Tommy Robinson & his supporters have been involved in a number of incidents of harrassment & assault in Warrington this week.

for info, Alice Edwards is a male transperson (confirmed by Edward's sister on twitter comments about the article)

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-milkshake-video-warrington-attack-fight-brawl-hospital-police-a8898786.html?

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nauticant · 04/05/2019 11:52

"Not necessarily more violent than Tommy Robinson supporters."

That's a fantastic endorsement. They could use it as a slogan.

stumbledin · 04/05/2019 23:55

London Mayday Organising Committee response to incident on May Day

“We have have received some contact re an incident that took place on May Day involving what we have been told was between two feminists and a group of what have been called trans activists. Although conscious of some of this on the day, no one contacted us or the stewards on the day with specific details. We had received no media enquiries.

We received emails, raising the same points (see details at end of this email), yesterday and were also contacted by the Morning Star. At that point we needed to try and obtain some information so we could respond.

We have responded to the emails in the following way –

Thank you for your contact. We have sought to obtain details from our people in the Square but this process is not yet complete.

We became aware of an incident going on when the speakers had started (once the March was in the Square) and, as soon as we were, stewards went to try and resolve it – at that point, particularly with the speeches going on through the PA, we could not hear what was being said or know what was the cause of the argument that was going on. Stewards sought to resolve the incident and thought there was agreement for both parties to separate and move away. It was not made clear to stewards what had been said and different arguments were being made by all those involved. If we had been made aware of the details of any racist or insulting comments or assaults we would have responded immediately. No one came forward to the main stewards and organisers around the plinth about the issues which would have given us the opportunity to try and identify those making such attacks.

When we were visually aware of the dispute our immediate priority was to end any confrontation and ensure the safety of anyone and that was done. After the first intervention there was a further coming together on the opposite side of the Square which our stewards again intervened to curtail but at that point two police intervened and effectively took over.

We would welcome any information about those involved (as they had no banners or identifying marks) so we could follow up. Certainly no organisation or group identified themselves as attending the March from such a position or communicated with us in advance. We conduct extensive contact with the many organisations that take part on May Day to ensure any political differences do not affect the unity that marks May Day. We also on May Day seek to encourage the widest possible involvement of different organisations, if they accept working together to celebrate May 1st.

You will understand we are a group of organisations that come together solely for the celebration of May Day and have no full time positions, so act within those constraints.

We would welcome any contact from the two women involved as we want to get as much information as possible.

The London May Day Organising Committee condemns totally any racist or misogynist language or attacks and such views are totally at odds with the spirit of May Day and are not accepted on the march. We have a very long and consistent history on each May Day in clearly expressing anti-racist policies and fighting for equality and human rights. We have made that position known widely.

If you have any information you can add please let us know or if you have any comments you may wish to make. Because this was not raised with us on May Day it has made any enquiries very difficult.”

Please email [email protected]

(This was posted by WPUK on their facebook page, not sure where it came from)

Justhadathought · 05/05/2019 08:44

And Antifa scare me just as much as the far right just now. I can't believe this, but it's true. And Momentum.

The extremes of Left and Right merge into each other at one point. Both fascistic. And truth is the casualty.

Justhadathought · 05/05/2019 08:48

Progressive trans allies have a tendency for racism, misogyny, and violence against women?

This is because they are so 'woke' they can no longer think for themselves or reason in a critical manner. The only important thing is being 'on the right side' and being seen to be with the 'in crowd'. Drones. In the manner of Hitler Youth.

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