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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Census question on gender identity now decided ?

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stumbledin · 03/05/2019 00:35

I found this article a bit confusing but take it to mean an agreement have been reached in Scotland.
www.scotsman.com/news/politics/new-transgender-question-in-next-census-agreed-1-4919394

Meantime (the same but for England, Wales and NI?) the Cabinet Office have posted this www.gov.uk/government/news/census-return-particulars-and-removal-of-penalties-bill

Questions on sexuality and gender identity to be included but will be voluntary not compulsory.

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FannyCann · 03/05/2019 08:14

How could they make them compulsory and police the truth?
I will almost certainly choose a novel answer when it comes to it anyway.

DpWm · 03/05/2019 08:24

It looks as though common sense prevails.

The TRA lobby want(ed) to remove "sex" entirely and make everyone to fill out their gender or "gender identity" instead. Not just on the Census but basically everywhere. They've been successful actually, virtually all data gathering forms are asking are asking not for your sex but your "gender identity" even including the obligatory "other" option.
It looks as though the census will be asking for sex (born sex) AND Gender or 'trans identity' rather than only the latter
It's a welcome decision.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 03/05/2019 17:17

That Times article is good:

Sex is a biological given that does not change, even with surgery and hormones.

That is good news that trans people will be included in the census though. So far little is known about actual numbers and sex. This population wide count should hopefully provide some very useful information.

howonearthdidwegethere · 03/05/2019 18:25

Different processes in Scotland, and England and Wales.

The Scottish legislation is further on. The Scottish Govt had blurred sex and gender ID but that's come out of the bill. But there'll be two new voluntary questions on sexual orientation and gender ID. Parliamentary committee said sex question must be binary (M/F) as the plan just now is a three-way answer.

English legislation has just been introduced, I think. Same new voluntary questions but the census authority has already said it's sticking with a binary sex question. So a better starting point.

I think the parliaments consider the draft census questions later this year (so still not out of the woods in Scotland with the drafting of the sex question AFAIK).

Genderfreelass · 03/05/2019 22:45

In Scotland there will be a binary sex question and an additional voluntary question for transgender and non binary people - wording of which has not been finalised.

That's what my MSP said in an email a few weeks ago when I asked.

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