I am at work now so haven't listened to this yet, but a sentence below the podcast link is interestingly worded:
"She also discusses why it was a mistake for Stonewall to only have taken on transgender rights in 2015, and why she wishes others would recognise that trans rights are human rights."
www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2019/apr/29/on-the-frontline-in-the-fight-for-lgbt-rights