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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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minisoksmakehardwork · 28/04/2019 22:32

Baby! Or newborn, twins, triplets, toddler.

I've noticed locally to me a huge number of posts lately asking for a stroller suitable for a girl or a boy.

Now I've yet to find a stroller which has special place for boys to put their penis so why has this way of asking become a thing?

I was told 'sorry, not suitable' when I offered up a single stroller in navy blue complete with muff and rain cover.

I'm pretty sure my eldest daughter didn't care what colour the pushchair was as long as she was warm and dry. And her baby brother didn't suffer from me not locating the penis holder on it either. Why oh why when everyone wants to be so blooming woke, is it seen as so necessary to define ones child by a colour.

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BlackeyedGruesome · 28/04/2019 22:36

Pushchair suitable to fold down with one hand and hoik up two flights of stairs while carrying baby. Came in grey. DD is rather GNC so perhaps we can lay the blame at the grey pushchair.Hmm

SnugglySnerd · 28/04/2019 22:36

I don't get this either. Someone I know wanted untl after the baby was born so that they could buy a pram once they knew the sex. I assume they wanted pink for a girl or whatever. Apart from anything else it seems like a very impractical and wasteful attitude as it implies that they would get rid of it and buy a different one for a second baby if it was a different sex.

ImNotNigel · 28/04/2019 22:38

It’s true. My 20 something DD is a lesbian because I put her in a red and blue buggy.

BlackeyedGruesome · 28/04/2019 22:39

Ds on the other hand wanted a pink dolls pushchair present. His face was delighted when he opened it. Ex's on the other hand looked like he had been sucking on a lemon.

Aimily · 28/04/2019 22:56

But a push chair is a push chair, it's doesn't matter what colour it is does it? I mean, as long as I like what I'm pushing around?
My hair dresser has a hot pink changing bag for her son, reason? It's her bag just contains his stuff.

VickyEadie · 28/04/2019 23:03

I think you'd find more interest if you used one of the forums designed for such discussions.

"Strollers" isn't really a feminist issue...

VickyEadie · 28/04/2019 23:04

My apologies - I hadn't read the whole post. Ignore me.

ReturnofSaturn · 28/04/2019 23:08

It's not just strollers... I've seen baby swing wanted suitable for a girl...she said no to the one that was multi coloured primary colours as it wasn't suitable but said yes to the pink one.
Also seen it said for cots, toddler beds etc absolutely ridiculous.

Badgerthebodger · 28/04/2019 23:18

My DS had to borrow some clothes from a friend’s DD today. DS is 2 and friend’s DD is 4. She took me upstairs and opened her drawer full of jeans, leggings, shorts etc and said, “but Auntie Badger, I don’t have any boys clothes for him to wear”

It’s just so sad. Not even something my friend would have particularly encouraged, just something the little girl has picked up from the world around her. She loves pink, and sparkly, and unicorns, and that’s great...but she won’t wear blue, or trousers, because that’s for boys. I hate that these messages are everywhere. I hate that little girls are sold “girl” versions of things like purple sparkly doctor’s bags (Doc McStuffins, I’m looking at you), Barbies doing different professions dressed for a night out and pink pink pink everywhere you turn.

It goes the other way as well, boys are meant to be rough and tumble, in dark colours and khaki, playing with trains and dinosaurs. Put a boy in a pair of pink shoes and you’re going to get looks and probably comments. My immediate family contains 3 people who were incredibly shocked that DS got dolls and a pink pram from Father Christmas. I just think all this leads into girls who don’t think STEM subjects are for them, or worse, they think they should become boys instead. Boys internalise the message that they need to be strong, brave and not cry, and some boys seem to grow up with a profound disrespect and sometimes a hatred of women. These boys grow into the abusers, the violent men, the fucking arseholes most women would avoid like the plague.

Sorry OP. I’m just so bloody frustrated with the shittiness sometimes! I mean, a bloody pram Hmm how can it possibly matter?! When me and my sister were small we wore jeans and jumpers and hand me downs, occasionally a party dress but even they came in dark colours and tartan etc. Clothes which were suitable for running around and getting dirty. I went to a lovely big outdoor play area a few weeks back and there were lots of little girls in floaty skirts, one in a pink play suit and one in a pink bralet and denim hot pants. FFS. So utterly infuriating Sad

minisoksmakehardwork · 28/04/2019 23:20

Yes @ReturnofSaturn, that too. It's almost the opposite of 'catching the gay' if a girl deigns to put their delicate hand on a dark, stain hiding colour!

Why is colour not a feminist thing @VickyEadie? Are we not being pigeonholed by assumptions that girls are light, bright and delicate colours while boys are heavy, dark and earthy colours?

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powershowerforanhour · 28/04/2019 23:59

Mothercare currently full of heavily stereotyped clothes.

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Gingerkittykat · 29/04/2019 00:27

Of course colour of baby items is a feminist issue.

It starts with the pink stroller, moves onto the disney princesses and barbies and lego sets where girls build pink beauty parlours and boys spaceships.

Nothing wrong with any of those things, but pushing girls and boys into narrow gender stereotypes does nobody any favours.

Badgerthebodger · 29/04/2019 00:29

To be fair to Mothercare, I think the black and white range is meant to be unisex. Otherwise, yeah. Not seeing pink t-shirts saying the same thing are we? And I’d put money on those red r-shirts being in the boys section. Even if you did want to buy one for your DD, she’d be eyeing you up asking why she had to have a boys top. Exasperated!!

powershowerforanhour · 29/04/2019 01:57

The above 3 photos were all from the boys section - big sign said so.
Girls sign was a swirly wirly one. These photos among were the least pink and flouncy of what was on offer, but compare the messages to the boys' ones

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powershowerforanhour · 29/04/2019 01:59

Were among obviously! Girls leggings almost all useful colours like pale pink or white Hmm

GabrielleNelson · 29/04/2019 06:26

Different colours, different messages, and judging by your pictures the boys' t-shirts are made of heavier cotton, cut less close to the body and have longer sleeves. So even as toddlers girls are expected to wear skimpy figurehugging clothes. Angry Envy

ISaySteadyOn · 29/04/2019 06:40

I had a black pushchair for mine. Does this mean my DC are going to grow up to be Goths? Wink

Seriously, though, OP, I take your point. It seems so odd. And poor DD2 who is a very precise rule follower, got really upset and worried when another little boy went on about colours such as green being for boys and long hair only for girls. I pointed out that I wear green all the time and DH has long hair which helped but I think she still worries.

MermaidUnicorn · 29/04/2019 07:00

I've seen someone asking for a baby changing bag 'suitable for a boy' Confused

stucknoue · 29/04/2019 07:04

Oddly when I had my DD's they only really came in gender neutral colours, it was a few years before I saw pink, and they were just buggies from Argos

BikeRunSki · 29/04/2019 07:07

TBH, with the b&w stuff and the Little Bird range, Mothercare are one of the least-bad high street retailers for gendered/sexualised clothing.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 29/04/2019 07:10

When DS was a baby we had a red pram. In a shop one day a lady said oh what a lovely baby , boy or girl ?I get that because I know all babies look the same , and when he was tiny I put him in white baby grows. Oh he's a boy I said.
I couldn't tell , she said, what with his pram being red ???
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BuzzPeakWankBobbly · 29/04/2019 07:17

I have just seen a "unisex" CAKE STAND! I mean, really? Cake has a sex now?!

Catoninetails · 29/04/2019 07:21

I give you this gem....

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TheCuriousMonkey · 29/04/2019 07:38

I see this all the time. I think an all time low was someone looking for a changing mat "for a girl". FFS.

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