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European election canvassing: a great chance to get the word out

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boatyardblues · 27/04/2019 12:32

Had a local LibDem councillor at the door earlier canvassing for the European elections, so I’ve just talked him through my utter dismay at the state of debate around the GRA reforms and the LibDem’s position on it, the frankly appalling, dismissive statements by some of their Westminster colleagues and why this isn’t a simple fix to the process, that it has huge implications for society.

I talked about women’s prisons, the impact on crime and health stats and service planning, the erosion of safeguarding frameworks and the impact on other protected groups. He said I wasn’t the first person to have raised this and other people had raised concerns. I said he needed to get word back to HQ to engage with this and stop dismissing women with genuine concerns as transphobic bigots. I may have been a bit sweary, but I was quite clear that I am politically engaged, always vote and am currently so disenfranchised by all the main parties that I’m considering spoiling my ballot at the next GE.

Man, it felt good to get it off my chest! If any of you have canvassers on your doorsteps in the next few weeks, it’s a great opportunity to let the grassroots know what you think. It would be useful to have some handouts by the front door. I wish I could have remembered which senior LibDem it was that told GC feminists they weren’t welcome in the party. He tentatively suggested Layla Moran, so I obviously wasn’t the first person to raise it. Grin

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TheInebriati · 27/04/2019 12:36

Where I live, local councillors have all attended training that gives them a stock answer to parrot at you for any point you make.
Their critical thinking has been switched off, they can't listen, and they are a lost cause.
I spoke out but they were dismissive and talked over me, I will spoil my ballot.

VickyEadie · 27/04/2019 12:39

Any canvasser who comes to my door is getting a precautionary "Before I ask your position on issues that concern me, I need you word that you will not try to talk over me, will not ignore my question and parrot a pre-determined line and will promise to take my issues back to whoever you report to."

VickyEadie · 27/04/2019 12:40

UKIP and any other nasty party will be told to fuck off, however.

TimeLady · 27/04/2019 12:47

A handy handout by the door is a great idea. Thanks

EvaHarknessRose · 27/04/2019 13:12

I am toying with removing my no cold callers sign to lure them in and have just printed the Get the L out report. Now need some FPFW leaflets too.

cwg1 · 27/04/2019 13:29

He said I wasn't the first person to have raised this

This is the most heartening news! Many, many congratulations to all wonderful GC campaigners. Word is getting out and people are confident to raise their concerns.

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EweSurname · 27/04/2019 14:13

I wish I could have remembered which senior LibDem it was that told GC feminists they weren’t welcome in the party.

It was Lynne Featherstone

Galvantula · 27/04/2019 14:21

Oh handouts are a good idea... :D I have only had lib dems at the door so far and told them in their questionnaire why i'd not be able to vote for them.

surferjets · 27/04/2019 15:39

A bit sweary!Grin

MsMcWibble · 27/04/2019 15:39

Just had a lib dem posting leaflets. I told him about Lynne Featherstone, tore up the leaflets and gave them back and told him to stick them up his arse.
He was actually very nice and said he agreed with me and it was 'a debate going on in the party'.
The funniest thing was that my husband arrived back from a cycle ride in the middle of this - saw what was going on and turned round and cycled away faster than the speed of light.

Debenhamshandtowel · 27/04/2019 17:18

I had a lovely Libdem councilor at the door. I was a bit flusters as had just got on from work and hadn’t got my talking head on. I just told him that I’m afraid I wouldn’t be voting libDem as I am a women. He asked who I’d vote for. As a natural
Labour voter I am politically homeless so I told him that. He set helpfully tried to get me to vote fir Greens or Women’s Lib Party. When I told him they do t care about women or children either he got a bit confused. We decided that I should vote communist but we don’t think any are standing.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 27/04/2019 17:42

There's a debate going on in the Libdems?! I thought this was utterly verboten?

jamrollyolly · 27/04/2019 20:51

Maybe we could flip the lib dems? There aren't that many of them...

MsMcWibble Grin

MrsJamin · 27/04/2019 22:56

It'd be good to have a run down of which people on which parties have been the most unhelpful (a euphemism!).
Greens calling women "non men", stating "transwomen are women" and allowing the challenor situation to take place.
Labour enabling lily Madigan to be the Labour students women's officer.
Tories for penny mordaunts clusterf**k of a mumsnet chat where she could not tell us what a woman was.
I think I will just ask the candidates to describe what a woman is and see them squirm.

boatyardblues · 27/04/2019 23:32

Thanks Ewe.

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EweSurname · 28/04/2019 07:57

This is an an excellent idea and will look forward to any canvassing!

Don't think the lib dems will knock on my door as I used to belong to them and despite leaving, the local party still keep emailing me so I assume they haven't taken me off all the lists, but hopefully we'll get some others!

JustAnotherWoman · 28/04/2019 09:39

I thought Lynne Featherstones was more specific than that, she didn't think anyone could call themselves feminists if they didn't support gender neutral toilets and didn't want them in the party.
Don't even need to be a GC feminist just have to not want the share a public toilet with men

EweSurname · 28/04/2019 12:23

This was her statement

www.libdems.org.uk/lgbt-history-month-19

I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights, or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminism: You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.

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