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Prince Harry jumps on the Woke Trans Bandwagon

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TheCatsServant · 23/04/2019 23:14

Article in The Telegraph today....Headlined "Prince Harry shows support for transgender children as controversial charity invited to mental health talks"

The controversial charity being Mermaids (who else!)

Link (if it works) www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2019/04/23/prince-harry-shows-support-transgender-children-controversial/

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terftastic1984 · 23/04/2019 23:17

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HandsOffMyRights · 23/04/2019 23:19

New lows:
Ms Green said that transgender people are facing the “same headlines” as the gay community did 20 or 30 years ago, when the Duke’s mother Diana, Princess of Wales, worked to transform public perceptions.

Same high profile support

Prince Harry jumps on the Woke Trans Bandwagon
HandsOffMyRights · 23/04/2019 23:19

Here

Prince Harry jumps on the Woke Trans Bandwagon
Cheekyfeckery · 23/04/2019 23:21

Fucking hell.

This is going to bite him in the arse one day.

Lumene · 23/04/2019 23:24

Mermaids is another kids company waiting to implode. Really not the place of the Royals to take a controversial stance on a charity with a very questionable - and questioned by academics, investigative reporters, doctors, psychologists - approach to child protection. Very much not in support of my tax money funding a couple who want to use their royal position to do this. Bad bad move for the royal family imo.

Lumene · 23/04/2019 23:25

Terftastic that’s a really unpleasant thing to say.

Herland · 23/04/2019 23:27

@terftastic wow!

CarolDanvers · 23/04/2019 23:28

Don't worry Terf is being ridiculous all over the place tonight.

AwdBovril · 23/04/2019 23:31

That's a horrible thing to say. I highly doubt he has issues fitting in.

HumberElla · 23/04/2019 23:47

Don’t the royals just get told where to turn up and what time, with a speech and a few soundbites to trot out? I’m not sure they get much say about who attends or who gets invited, whatever their private views are.

True that Mermaids will milk it for all its worth though.

Ereshkigal · 24/04/2019 00:06

FFS.

HumberElla · 24/04/2019 00:35

She said criticism of Mermaids' work had been unfair, claiming it is “transparent”

Seem to recall that “transparent” is not what the formal review done by the Lottery said about Mermaids. Although it still upheld the grant, didn’t they insist on regular reviews to make sure the organisation addressed significant issues?

nettie434 · 24/04/2019 01:17

I agree with HumberElla. Lots of charities (or rather their CEOs will have been invited). It is not like a member of the Royal Family becoming a patron of Mermaids. Maybe I am being an ostrich here but I think this is one of those events in which many charities with a broad mental health remit get an invite.

Goosefoot · 24/04/2019 02:27

I don't think it's surprising. He probably just sees it as a good work that is uncontroversial except with people he thinks are crazy. Liking it to his mom's work is on the right track I think, a lot of people were uncomfortable with that too.

For a society that likes to think it's really supportive of critical thinking etc, it's interesting to see that really, most people just do what everyone agrees is the right thing. I think it's probably always been that way, or you'd have no functioning societies, but it does suggest that we are fibbing to ourselves about how open minded we are.

RepealTheGRA · 24/04/2019 07:11

Didn’t the royals meet with Savile too?

Letter writing campaign to the Cambridges and sussexes?

FamilyOfAliens · 24/04/2019 07:19

So this links being transgender with mental health problems?

Wasn’t it Theresa May who said being transgender wasn’t a mental health issue?

FannyCann · 24/04/2019 07:31

Didn’t the royals meet with Savile too?

Well he was knighted and also had an OBE so that's at least two trips to the palace. I don't think they can be blamed for that, it's not like they choose the honours list!

ChattyLion · 24/04/2019 07:48

Well, the Sussexes are now on social media so they are not living in a vacuum. They will work it out.

Megan will wander on to MN at some point to see what UK mums are talking about and see some stuff. Don’t forget she is from Canada where anti-woman wokeness is the norm. But also she wants to be a feminist.

The pair of them are just very very keen to be seen to use their ginormous privilege for a purpose. Fine. They also want to support child and young people’s mental health causes. That is really great. Really great- we need more like them. NHS CAMHS provision is massively under resourced in the UK. Keep it up.

At some point the Sussexes and everyone else will twig that the anti-woman, pro-sex-stereotypes, child-fertility-and-sexual-organ-obliterating, brain-fog-inducing, osteoporosis-inducing, puberty-blocking, unnecessary-surgery-advocating, safeguarding-endangering, detransitioner-ostracising, parental-alienation agenda is exactly the opposite of providing children and young people with good mental health support.

If we just keep on keeping on with talking to people about it, posting here, tweeting, IGing, forwarding MN threads, scientific journal articles, links to the Times front page, writing letters to our MPs, whatever we can do safely- then people will realise. It’s all happening in plain sight. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. We’ll need the mental health support to be available to be hundreds of kids and young adults getting caught up in this. Sad

RedToothBrush · 24/04/2019 08:18

They are part of the Hollywood woke set, more than real life British reality though. Their social circle as all woke as fuck. Even if they see stuff on social media it will be more important for them to fit in with their mates. They think their friends are 'normal'.

The issue is that none of these people with their body guards and private schools (which you can beat your life will retain single sex toilets) and their private swimming pools ever come across the situations where conflicts over the rights of women occur.

The only place it falls is where the kids of the ultra rich are taking puberty blockers and hormones. And the culture of that set is to trust dodgy doctors and be drugged up to the eyeballs with prescription drugs as it is. Complete with obligatory associated rehab being 'normal'. Its going to take years for that one to work its way through and the celebrity kids to turn on their parents and sue them in Hollywood Dramatic style. They will probably make a reality TV series out of it.

On the plus side the Sussexes can get access to endless hours of counselling that mere mortals can't get access to on the NHS and they do seem to be aware of this and that normal people can't get access.

There's lots of talk of the Sussexes raising their children gender neutral. I suspect for them to rebel against royal protocol that means not putting a girl in stuffy frilly dresses like the Cambridges. Or having a long haired boy who wears normal clothes rather than those romper suits and that dreadful combed over hair cut that George and Louis have.

And the name. Omg I can't wait for the name they will come up with. I can not see them going down the traditional Royal Name route and picking an 'approved' and 'sensible' name.

That's the drama I'm looking forward to when they pick something very Hollywood and different. And all the newspapers go into total melt down and all the Royalists melt in horror. (The Cambridges might have picked - twice - the only cross over name between being Royal and On Trend in Louis. Everything else is a bit fusty)

I kind of feel for the Sussexes in a way because they are caught between not understanding what's normal and their desire to be normal which they don't quite have grasp of how to do. And acts which we wouldn't blink at, like boy with long hair, will be a royal scandal.

They are almost a target for Mermaids to approach for all these reasons. They are just totally in a bubble which is so far removed from the rest of the world.

But yes that name. I'm hoping that don't disappoint me now!!!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 24/04/2019 08:30

She said criticism of Mermaids' work had been unfair, claiming it is “transparent” But it is! It is very, very Trans Parent!

LarryGreysonsDoor · 24/04/2019 12:49

The royals aren’t known for making good choices.

Prince Harry jumps on the Woke Trans Bandwagon
HumberElla · 24/04/2019 13:21

Pfffft!

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 24/04/2019 14:08

Actually I think Harry's desire to continue what he sees as his mother's work makes him vulnerable to leverage by Mermaids etc.

If you didn't know the background, Mermaids could appear to be a continuation of her AIDS charities & gay rights arc.

I'd not be surprised to learn Harry has AGP friends bending his ears either.

SeaRabbit · 24/04/2019 14:17

I remember reading that Jimmy Savile used to give relationship advice to Chas & Di.

theOtherPamAyres · 24/04/2019 14:19

It is not like a member of the Royal Family becoming a patron of Mermaids.

They may as well be.

In October 2017, Susie Green was invited to Buckingham Palace by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. It was a reception to recognise and applaud the 'amazing' work of mental health charities.

I don't blame Susie Green for making the best of the publicity that followed and I don't blame her for making reference to her Royal supporters when applying for grants and funding. It's what every charity does.

The recent collaboration with Prince Harry - as a stakeholder in his Foundation - demonstrates that Harry might as well be a patron of Mermaids. He has come to the rescue of Susie Green, in the face of question marks about Mermaids from health care and mental health professionals, as well as the public.

I would like to know how Prince Harry came to the conclusion that he did.