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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

John Boyne on Irish radio

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Oncewasblueandyellow · 23/04/2019 22:08

Hi everyone

I deregistered when the SH debacle was going on and just re-registered with a name change. Also thanks to someone in a previous thread who mentioned Proton mail,i hadn't know there was such a thing.
So John Boyne was on the radio with one of Irelands leading TV and radio personalities. The article linked gives a few excerpts of the coversation, and John is not backing down.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/showbiz/john-boyne-responds-to-comments-that-he-is-a-cis-man-speaking-from-a-position-of-cis-privilege-919514.html

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furrytoebean · 23/04/2019 22:13

Good for him.

The insinuation that a gay man is happy with his gender is ridiculous. Having sex with someone of the same sex as you is the least gender conforming thing you can do!

furrytoebean · 23/04/2019 22:16

I wish he would say his what the problem he has with the word cis though because you can easily refute his argument there by just pointing out that there are different axis of oppression.
He definitely has male privilege, it doesn’t mean he’s never been oppressed.

2BthatUnnoticed · 23/04/2019 22:36

Good on him. He has expressed it well.

2BthatUnnoticed · 23/04/2019 22:41

Agree with PP - there are different axes of oppression. But trans ideology elevates the “cis/trans” axis over everything else. So purely having alleged “cis” advantage over rides everything else (race, poverty, homophobia).. so it seems.

TheInebriati · 23/04/2019 22:42

Telling a gay man who grew up in Ireland that he has 'cis privilege' is the most ignorant, inane argument you could make.

nettie434 · 24/04/2019 21:14

Telling a gay man who grew up in Ireland that he has 'cis privilege' is the most ignorant, inane argument you could make.

Absolutely TheInebriati (great name). I checked and he was born in 1971 and homosexuality was not decriminalised until 1993. He has said that his teenage years were difficult.

There is so much inequality in our society that I do get grumpy about the ‘most oppressed group ever’. Many trans people face shocking discrimination but this does not mean they are unique.

Coyoacan · 24/04/2019 23:43

I lived in Ireland in the 1990s and there were no openly gay men to be found, they had all emigrated. But I still John Boyne really annoying because of the way he threw Glinner under the bus.

Oncewasblueandyellow · 25/04/2019 18:44

Coyoacan, I agree but just glad to see he hasn't completely backed down and that a lot of people would have listined to that segment.

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