Biological sex- short and worth a wee read.

[EachDubh]

medium.com/@JonahMix/an-open-letter-to-the-guy-on-twitter-who-wonders-if-biological-sex-is-real-58d2cb4403f5

A nicely put together piece about why people who try to say biological sex doesn't exist are plonkers.

Incredible writing. So clear, so perfectly stated.

Womanhood is not a thought experiment.

Another person who really enjoyed the article. Thanks EachDubh. Also to littlbrowndog for the alliterative insult. I shall be muttering that a lot from now on.

Jean Hatcher has just tweeted something a bit depressing about him.

mobile.twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1119522610549874688

Though I have no problem with men speaking on this issue and amplifying their voices too.

I think she has an axe to grind with men per se:
I don’t agree at all. I think we fluff men up too much because we have been conditioned to do so. I don’t really care what men think or write about women’s issues or their views of women’s liberation. It’s nothing to do with them.

I don't agree at all. I think it's important to have men as allies.

This isn’t purely a women’s issue though.

I’m only just really beginning to understand the undermining of language and the shutting down of opposing speech as more than just a trans thing, but I don’t think the purity politics angle is going to help anyone in the long term.

It’s not just a women’s issue, it’s a men’s issue too as transwomen are men, and, as such, men have a duty to call out their behaviour.

Wasn’t that what the Gillette advert was about?

I agree about the article. It's good. And it reminded me of this one from Marina S (@marstrina on Twitter).

notazerosumgame.blogspot.com/2017/02/how-do-they-know-who-to-kill.html

*I don’t agree at all. I think we fluff men up too much because we have been conditioned to do so. I don’t really care what men think or write about women’s issues or their views of women’s liberation. It’s nothing to do with them

I don't agree at all. I think it's important to have men as allies

I don't see it as allies but a question of how society as a whole works. She can take the "I don't care what men think" moral high ground if she likes but even if you were to achieve 50% representation by women in the legislature and judiciary that leaves 50% of the population who according to her should play no part. That to me seems unreasonable and impractical.

For example if there were to be changes proposed in UK abortion laws Ms Hatchett might like to bear in mind that there is a higher %age of women looking to reduce time limits than men. Without the support of the 50% who according to her should have no say she might not like what happens.

So it was an article about the reality of biological sex, are men now not permitted to write on the subject. It was a good article, we're not obliged to like or champion the author. I was focussed on the content of the article but it seems the author (a man) is now front and centre; is that a feminist own goal?

This was a very good article regardless of who wrote it.

We need more like this.

The idea that only women should speak for and be heard on "women's" issues (assuming that "women's issues" can be completely divorced from societal issues") is absurd.

To go back to the issue of abortion there are many, many women who are anti- abortion and speak vociferously against it. Most organised anti-abortion groups seem to be fronted by women

Do their voices deserve to be heard over and given more weight than the voices of men who support the right to choose?

I read dozens of articles a week where I don’t even look at the authors name until I’ve read it.

If I think ‘This is good, I wonder who wrote it?’ I’ll scroll up the page and have a look.

If it’s rubbish I generally have no interest in who wrote it. It’s not like I’ll be searching out more articles by them.

I thought it was a great article. I’ve no idea who he is and I don’t much care. I am so bloody tired of purity politics bullshit. You can’t like this person because they once said something. You can’t appreciate the support of that politician, because they have an opinion. It is so utterly unhelpful and closed-off. This whole issue is far, far bigger than individuals. When people go out of their way to pull others down I honestly feel embarrassed for them. It’s so petty

I don't understand the criticism of men writing about this. We need men to speak up as well. If it's only women who are speaking, it's all too easy for some people to dismiss us (it's only silly women, after all).

Unfortunately, we live in a world where men's voices are listened to more than women. And nobody is in any doubt who's male and who's female when they decide who is worth listening to.

And also this:
The idea that only women should speak for and be heard on women's" issues (assuming that "women's issues" can be completely divorced from societal issues") is absurd.

I don’t care who wrote it, it’s the absolute truth, written with passion.

Nice to see a man get angry about this bullshit though.

The article is really good. I hope everyone who comes to FWR will read it.

I found Jean Hatchets’ comments really disappointing and unhelpful. The point is that the article is good, and the analogy used will help people understand the sheer lunacy of what is being promoted. How unhelpful and pointless to try to put people off it.

I found Jean Hatchets’ comments really disappointing and unhelpful..

Me too. The chap makes it clear in the title that he is addressing some divvy bloke on twatter. Not preaching to women or anything objectionable like that. Jean seems to be irritated that some women have read and liked the piece.

Perhaps the man should post his views anonymously or pull a reverse-Brontë and pretend to be a woman. When did that ever cause problems, men pretending to be women?