Meet the Experts Training Police in the UK on Trans Issues

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Article drawing together the various incidents of police involvement in non criminal critiques of gender identity ideology and what training has been given, and by whom, to lead them to do this.

uncommongroundmedia.com/police-uk-trans-issues/

Contains the timeless PC quote “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is."

One for the capture thread, I think.

And a good question raised by this tweeter.. let’s see if it gets answered!

Seems Carol Lea isn't someone who should be advising anyone.

The video is a very good illustration of the difference between the sexes.

Women don't take hammers out of the boot of their car during 'road rage' incidents. They are all too aware that they will be disarmed easily and that the weapon will be used against them. Only someone confident of their superior strength would take such a chance.

I don't think anyone who saw the video thought the hammer wielder was a woman, they looked, acted and moved like a bloke in a cardigan and flowery top. Glad they have been charged. There needs to be better due diligence in deciding who gives professional training, DBS/PVG checks need to be carried out and clean records held by trainers. Hamza Yousless is unlikely to respond, he never does 😕

jeez louise

I really hope the press pick this up. It is not OK

as a PP said this individual should not be advising anybody

how the heck did they get past even a basic vetting process?

It's like living in a Monty Python sketch.

We keep getting told these are just 'isolated incidents'. Except they keep coming up, and coming up, and coming up. How many of these trainers and well known public figures who have been invited to govt committees and advised on policy and been in these secret meetings over tea to fiddle fairness behind the public's back have so far been proven to be people who should never have been allowed into a position of trust and responsibility? And who were not qualified anyway to advise and guide policy that affected other groups? It's over and over and over a bloody gain, where councils and govt have ignored basic due diligence and impact assessment processes intended to catch this kind of problem from happening! This is a massive institutional failure. Massive. Who is holding these national bodies to account?

And what's that rule of misogyny about women having basic pattern recognition skills is hate crime?

It's getting to the point where I think we're going to have to form working groups to assess the extent of regulatory capture and to coordinate strategies to start pushing back against it.

It is time women ignored the gaslighting that is "isolated incidents" in all circumstances ... it's what men tell us all the time and we know it is untrue.

It's getting to the point where I think we're going to have to form working groups to assess the extent of regulatory capture and to coordinate strategies to start pushing back against it.

I think this needs to happen as a matter of extreme urgency.

Do we need to come off the public boards and arrange a meeting?
A session with a few (or more) people thrashing out ideas together might help us work out how to get this started and let us plan who we need to recruit.

Terrifying. There is massive regulatory capture going on. Agree action is required, I’m outside the UK but can support from afar.

All rather depressing. However, I was cheered up by the responses to the attempted gaslighting by @merseypolice:

twitter.com/MerseyPolice/status/1126797359697080320

If only this kind of stuff could get put more in front of the public at large. When they see it, they're not having it.

apologies for bumping an old thread, I just discovered a post I had written months ago and though that readers might be interested in what I had discovered ....

Any readers wondering how on earth the Kent police ended up using a domestic violence perpetrator as a consultant on transgender issues might be interested to take note of the person who is responsible for caring for Kent police officers who are traumatised and / or depressed.

Janine Jury aka Janine Lawrence who according to her website:

"I have had an interest in people and psychological therapies for many years, so when I came across a job in the emergency services helping police officers and staff with their difficulties, I was in my element!

After 11 years I am still working with police officers and staff with issues arising from trauma, work stress, relationship issues and absolutely any matter affecting their mental health. I also became TRiM Manager (Trauma Risk Management) for Kent Police in 2012 which is an exciting challenge! More about TRiM here.

Since February 2016, I have been a Manager for a Welfare and Counselling Team in a large police service and absolutely love it. It's a real privilege to work with an amazing team who are all passionate about providing an all round wellbeing provision, utilising the perfect balance of reactive (therapy) and proactive initiatives, such as training, wellbeing programmes and specialist role support.”

Given that Jury/Lawrence works so closely with Kent police I thought Would check out her qualifications and to my alarm, her qualifications include

Diploma and Certificate in Clinical Hypnotherapy - Kent College of Hypnotherapy in West Malling, Kent, UK (2004/2005)

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170507081059/www.stress-advice.com/about-me-janine-jury.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20170507081059/www.stress-advice.com/about-me-janine-jury.html

I have extremely serious concerns about the wildly unregulated field of hypnotherapy, not least of all because of the plethora of accrediting bodies being set up, none of which are registered with the state in any way. There is no public protection and little in the way of evidence based practice. It is possible for a hypnotherapist to have a string of letters after their name that mean absolutely nothing.

So I decided to do some digging around the Kent College of Hypnotherapy, or to give it its full name, The Kent College of Hypnotherapy & Integrated Therapies.

The website is here and appears unremarkable upon initial perusal:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190126021300/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190126021300/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/

Until you discover their courses in past life regression
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180904204827/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/past-life-regression/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180904204827/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/past-life-regression/

This prestigious college also offers training courses in astrology, goal setting and the Law of Attraction and tarot card readings.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180904211355/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/spiritual-awareness-training/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180904211355/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/spiritual-awareness-training/

The founder of the college is Patricia (Pat) Whitson, a hypnotherapist with skills in mindfulness, soul consciousness, NLP, life coaching, rebirthing, meridian tapping and Kinesiology and other assorted areas of charlatanry.
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20060216140257/chi.uk.com/aboutpat.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20060216140257/chi.uk.com/aboutpat.html

I am intrigued, but unsurprised, to notice that the college also teaches a kind of “parts psychotherapy” of the kind that posits that the human person is not an individual but a cluster of different “inner selves” / alters / sub-personalities / parts. These kinds of therapies are not infrequently associated with false memories of satanic ritual abuse and with MPD/DID. They are also not infrequently used by therapists offering services to people who struggle with gender identity issues.

link here

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180904194314/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/psychology-of-selves/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180904194314/kentcollegeofhypnotherapy.co.uk/psychology-of-selves/

Back to Janine Lawrence;

A person named Janine Lawrence also appears on a register of therapists trained in something called Brain Working Recursive Therapy (BWRT), created by hypnotherapist Terrence Watts.

It is the same Janine Lawrence? The email contact given is [email protected]

According to multiple websites owned by a multitude of hypnotists, NLP therapists and snake oil merchants BWRT is an exciting new therapy that cures all known mental health problems in a flash.

I found a number of dissenting opinions here
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190526160050/www.clinpsy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21339" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190526160050/www.clinpsy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21339

just sharing in case this throws some light on the current insane situation

Oh, and while I’m here, this news story demonstrates just how pseudoscience and irrational beliefs can adversely affect policing

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-48364914

It's baffling that no one considers why someone who is themselves a perpetrator of other people's trauma should be attracted to working with and listening to vulnerable people describing their trauma.

It's like no one questions why a male born person may be utterly determined to counsel females who have been raped, and strong in their belief that female feelings, distress, client best interests and need to have a same sex counsellor should never be allowed to prevent them in achieving this personal desire.

It's like safeguarding happens on a different planet somewhere.

I missed this - Carol Lea's sentencing for the hammer attack. A small fine.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7086205/Hammer-wielding-woman-56-launched-KFC-car-park-attack-spared-jail.html

Hoodathunkit

Amazing, yet disturbing discovery. Thank you for that.

Where is the Safeguarding?

I missed this - Carol Lea's sentencing for the hammer attack. A small fine.

/news/article-7086205/Hammer-wielding-woman-56-launched-KFC-car-park-attack-spared-jail.html

What a terrible article, it makes it sound as if a woman attacked another woman with a hammer. This kind of article is then used as evidence that 'women are just as violent as men' and 'women use hammers to attack rude people in car parks'. The bit about 'homophobic' abuse is sneaky too, another way of avoiding mentioning that the offender is transwoman.

I hope that the guidance for media reporting gets scrutinised, along with the police and courtroom guidance, and that statistics and reporting go back to correctly sexing people because this kind of obfuscation has to stop!

unbelievable - words fail me (again)….

Hopefully one small consolation of CV and lockdown and businesses suddenly being short of £££ is that there may be less of an appetite for these courses. Especially in schools.

Yes, the video was quite clear - a large burly middle aged defendant hitting a slight young girl with a hammer. But the crime will be recorded differently.