Feminist Current: I supported Trans ideology until I couldn't any more

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Really interesting article about by a woman who changed her mind on trans issues this year

www.feministcurrent.com/2019/04/10/i-supported-trans-ideology-until-i-couldnt-anymore/

I thought this was interesting

Now, when I reflect on my “switch” from being an unrelenting trans activist/“ally” to being critical of gender identity ideology and legislation, I’m chilled at how easy it was for me — a psychologist (now retired), ostensibly trained to understand the human mind — to become so caught up in the momentum of “trans rights” that I avoided critical thought, much like a new member of a cult

Should referring to a self-identified transwoman as “he,” even inadvertently, mean that women deserve to have online methods of communication (a vital tool for women, enabling them to participate in both public and private conversations) cut off?

Also, one of the key things that got her rethinking her stance was talking with Morgane Oger - who'd have thought it eh?

I'm still stewing on why I never thought TWAW.

I'm more perplexed by the fact that anyone can actually believe TWAW, because they're clearly not.

I've always been deeply mystified by the whole 'living as the opposite sex' idea, and up until very recently (2 or 3 years ago) I had assumed that being 'trans' was to do with a deep dislike of your own genitalia and a need to have extensive body modification in order not to be repelled by your own body.

The idea of a man 'living as a woman' makes absolutely no sense at all to me.

I find it scary myself that I am agreeing with articles published in the Times or the National Review because I disagree with 90% of their stance on everything else.

For me, the shock is seeing myself agreeing with articles published in the Daily Mail -- a rag I have hitherto always dismissed as trash.

This wrong side of history trope coming from people decades younger than me is nonsense and arrant stupidly. I am the history you are telling me I am the wrong side of. .......How dare these people even breathe the words wrong side of history to women for whom this is not only their history, its their present and their future and their fucking retirement.

This, absolutely this. I've spent decades of this life learning, growing, gaining wisdom, travelling the world, living in a variety of cultures, connecting with other women, poor women, horribly oppressed women. I can well remember the megalomania of my youth, thinking I have ALL the answers, and life has made me so much more humble and then these babies come along throwing tantrums to the effect that I, my generation, knows nothing, that our age and experience mean nothing, that they have all the answers and are trying to overturn female wisdom and knowledge and struggles gathered over centuries because, just because, it's the latest trend who are trying to change the world my precious granddaughters will grow up in into something where women become even more oppressed than they ever were it's outrageous.

I think this is a fantastic article and one I’ll keep to show to others mired in the cult. Trans ideaogy makes no sense - you are a woman because you ‘feel’ like one? So do all women feel the same? How do you know? Does Rosemary West feel the same inside as Theresa May? Can you mind read? Professor Gina Rippon and Dr Cordelia Fine as scientists have made an excellent job of showing that there is no such thing as an identifiable ‘female’ or ‘male’ identity - we are all individuals and a mixture of many traits. You can’t identify with something that doesn’t exist. The illogical nonsense of gender identity is quickly exposed which is why TRAs don’t want to talk about it.

I think that for some people the need to feel virtuous and present themselves as liberal is overwhelming and makes it difficult not to support any cause that is presented as ‘progressive. Layla Moran is a great example - here is a science graduate standing in Westminster saying she can see into people’s souls to see if they are male or female. Now if as an elected MP you are as willing as that to make an absolute twat of yourself in public then your desire to score virtue points must be overwhelming. My husband is a bit like this. I’ve pointed out many times that self-id means his teenage daughters coming face to face with male genitalia in female changing rooms, being beaten by teenage self identifying girls at sport and the horrors of male rapists identifying as women to get transferred to women’s prisons. Intellectually he nods and agrees but at an emotional level he clearly finds it very hard to accept as this means somehow damaging his self image as a tolerant progressive liberal.

I’ve pointed out many times that self-id means his teenage daughters coming face to face with male genitalia in female changing rooms, being beaten by teenage self identifying girls at sport and the horrors of male rapists identifying as women to get transferred to women’s prisons. Intellectually he nods and agrees but at an emotional level he clearly finds it very hard to accept as this means somehow damaging his self image as a tolerant progressive liberal.

So does he think it's progressive and liberal to say women and girls shouldn't have any rights? Because all those things you've mentioned are about taking rights away from women and girls.

I am the history you are telling me I am the wrong side of. I am the woman forced into sex stereotype subjects at school, cooking and sewing, I am the school girl that sat feeling alone in the top stream for maths and sciences in the 60s and 70s and I am the woman that was discriminated against in work for decades

This sums it up for me. I’m in my mid forties, but it rings so true.

It struck me that, although the initial chink was the pervert who used the Trans label to indulge his fetishisms, it was when the narrative of theory didn’t square with the author’s actual experience that she really started to question it.

As a Jewish woman, she knew that the meeting referred to did not resemble 1930s Berlin.
Her experience and knowledge of toddlers meant she knew they cannot articulate gender preference - much less care about it.

They went too far; asked her to believe what she knew was impossible.

Yes, I think that’s right Tanith

It’s important to publicise transgenderism as widely as possible. The more people understand, the better

Nine days on, Alicia Hendley, who wrote that excellent article, has been suspended by Twitter. Same old, same old...

Fucks sake.

jesus. twitter mute every interesting voice. it will just be one homogenous consensus of woke misogyny

I love how Twitter seems to think that banning gender critical accounts and posts will somehow make it go away.

I thought the article was excellent, and good on Alice for writing it and publishing it. There will be more like Alice, many many more, and once they reach peak trans i would welcome them all.