A feeling of dread

[despairingofsome]

Does anyone else have a real fear that something absolutely awful will have to happen to peak trans some of the woke handmaidens? I mean awful things have already happened but I dread to think what could happen if safe spaces are invaded as they are being.
I've just been defriended on social media by some women who I thought were sensible, educated adults, but reading what they have said about me, it's obvious they've completely swallowed the bullshit. I'm so disappointed in them. They just spout the trans women are women mantra, and seem to have lost any critical faculties - and some of them are academics. I'm really despairing at the moment.

Stay strong. We will win in the end though I think the road ahead will be rocky

I think may of us share the same feeling - looking at the articles in the Times today and then reading some of the hostile fingers in ears abusive comments. I despair. But....

The safeguarding of our children is paramount. We know that society has been groomed and gaslighted by a self centred, aggressive white middle aged male movement.

The casualties are already starting to emerge. Let's have confidence in what we know - about being women, parents, sisters, about children and adolescents , about safeguarding and protecting vulnerable children from adults who seek to manipulate and groom them for their own ends.

Step away at times - re energise ourselves via our children, lovers, families, friends, pets, gardens , literature etc. Then step back into the fray.

Courage calls to courage everywhere.

Sorry - just not sure what you mean by 'to peak trans some of the woke handmaidens?' Are you talking about allowing trans people in ladies' loos?

But don't despair about being defriended by someone on social media. These aren't people you know, are they? They're just names of people you've never met, right? who disagree with you?

Social media is just gross, I wouldn’t worry too much about being defriended. Yes, concerning things have already happened and women are always the most targeted, but we have to hold the line.

Solo, no I didn't mean that, I was thinking along the lines of a child being sexually assaulted or worse.

I know in the scheme of things social media is meaningless, but the fight has felt hard today.

Yes, you’d think that the sexual assault of two women prisoners by Karen White would have been enough but apparently not.

I’ve just emailed the feedback column at the Times to praise them for their exposure of the transgender invasion of women’s spaces and the safeguarding issues of sterilising children on off-label medication.
Don’t despair, OP - keep encouraging our media allies who see this misogynistic bull shit for what it is, keep publicising it. Expose the full horror of it to some cleansing sunlight.
Once the detransitioned children start suing over their irreparable castrations and mastectomies, and the women sexually assaulted by men in women’s prisons bring lawsuits, even the wokest and dimmest of handmaidens will have to face the truth.

The responses actually prove The Times' point. Any concerns or discussion or applying normal standards is called 'transphobic' and 'hate', which demonstrates the disproportionate and irrational response to things like being asked to apply standard procedure; that protecting the ideology completely outweighs all normal, rational and proportional concerns, (see: cult) and that 'transphobia' and 'hate speech' have no meaning. They're empty words, hyperbole, take no notice of the man behind the curtain.

People will read the 'oh stop the hate' in response to people whistleblowing, resigning, sharing facts and concerns, and think - 'these people are nuts'.

Agree that the awful things have already happened, but some people just don't care about harm to women and children and care an awful lot about men and helping them get what they want.

Mumsnet changed though - a few years ago there was very little criticism of the institution of trans here or awareness of the dangers it poses and people who did realise got hammered for "transphobia". Now look at it! If it can happen here, it can happen everywhere. Don't give up hope OP. Sometimes the arguments you make may take years to get through, but in the end they will.

Erythronium I do hope so. My views have changed over the years - I used to be a lot more tolerant, careful not to be "un-pc" and it feels like some people my age (50s) and not much younger are stuck in a sixth form philosopher mindset.

I did used to feel that way but I've let it go.
There is no act so awful that will make them change the way they think, because we are thinking in terms of facts; and they support an ideology.

These are two completely different and separate mind sets. You cannot debate with them, because they are more concerned with fitting in than they are in anything else - even protecting their own human rights.

seem to have lost any critical faculties - and some of them are academics.

This has been one of the most shocking things for me. Seeing how many academics argue from an ideological position rather than a critical one. And how the rest of them stay silent (though they’re happy to whisper that they agree with you ). Oh, and then there are the ones who think academic freedom equals hate speech.

It wasn’t that so-called “support” group for women academics, was it? Because, at this stage, I think there are quite a few women academics in need of support because of that group and its witch burnings.

yep, I've also witnessed this with highly educated female academics, describing themselves as feminists yet happy to ignore the sex based rights of girls and women in favour of appeasing a small minority of very vocal, male bodied activists. It's very odd.

GCacademic no it wasn't that group but I get what you mean. I'd blocked one of the original group who was a trans woman because of their aggressive arguments, they sounded just like an abusive man to me, yet some of these women fawned over them like they were the second coming.